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good Price for Tower 55 Ho scale sd70ace's and es44dc's?
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[quote]QUOTE: <i>Originally posted by dingoix</i> <br />have you ever even bought a KATO, Atlas, P2K, or Athearn? <br />[/quote] <br /> <br />I havn't ever bought a kato. To high priced and I have long felt that their paint jobs arn't the best. <br /> <br />As for Atlas Yes. I own two. GP-7s. I admit I paid way to much for them But they were in a paint scheme that I desparatly wanted and since I know atlas locos sell insanely fast, I wasn't about to try my luck with E-bay. So I called up Toy Train heaven and ordered them at about $75.00 each. (I can't remember the exact price) I find them to high quality locomotives and heartily reccomend them But they aren;t worth the $75.00 sale price or the $110 or what ever it was list price. <br /> <br />I own alot of Proto-2000 locomotives. To count I own 4 GP-9s 2 GP 18s a GP 30 amd Two SD60s all the GPs I paid about $30 for. and I SDs came to about $45. Granted these are "sale" prices. But paying more than $50.00 for these engines is obsurd. They aren;t the $120.00 list price that is on thes models. <br /> <br />And Athearn. Oh Sweet Athearn. I would estimate that 2/3s of my locomotive roster is Athearn. All of them were blue box kits and all of them were aquired in the $25-35 dollar range. I think I got two dash 9s that I paid $45 for. Again all of them are are under $50.00 <br /> <br />Now Athearn is going nuts. Their RTR isn worth what htey are charging. Plus I have several athearn RTR pieces which were given to me. And all of them have been defective. Including a BN AB set of F-7s and they want $450.00 for their new big boy. <br /> <br /> As far as I feel. The whole scene lately has just gone nuts. The only people making any effort to run a business honestly at all are the DCC suppliers and I feel thats largly due to the fact that most DCC companies are ran by hobbyists themselvs and are working to better the hobby. And $100.00 sound decoders and stuff I can see how that price is justified because I know R&D isn't cheap. and to constantly be raising the bar justfies its high costs. <br /> <br />But Athearn F-7s should costs $20.00 You want to know why? <br /> <br />They were first released in 1954. The tooling has probably been well paid off since 1969 and everything since then is almost pure profit. but no it now has to to come assembled and done up all pretty which they pay some chinaman a fish head and $200.00 a year for his troubles. and Sell it in the US for three times what the kit is worth. <br /> <br />Alot of people have abandoned modeling and as such. The hobby is losing its core values. The only consolation left is when all the baby boomers die. There will be lots of stuff for the cheap. <br /> <br />James
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