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ort007
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July 2003
From: Wichita, KS
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4-4-0 Old Timer
Posted by
ort007
on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 1:52 PM
I'm interested in getting an 1800's 4-4-0 American. Does anyone know if the Bachmann 4-4-0 or the IHC 4-4-0 is the better model? The IHC appears to be similar to the old AHM/Rivarossi model (which makes sense!). Any opinions would be appreciated!
Thanks,
Ort007
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ort007
Member since
July 2003
From: Wichita, KS
77 posts
4-4-0 Old Timer
Posted by
ort007
on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 1:52 PM
I'm interested in getting an 1800's 4-4-0 American. Does anyone know if the Bachmann 4-4-0 or the IHC 4-4-0 is the better model? The IHC appears to be similar to the old AHM/Rivarossi model (which makes sense!). Any opinions would be appreciated!
Thanks,
Ort007
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vsmith
Member since
December 2001
From: Smoggy L.A.
10,743 posts
Posted by
vsmith
on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 4:31 PM
I would try the IHC simply because if used bachmann HO in the past and was not impressed by its performance. If you look around on ebay you could probaly find the old AHM and Rivarossi locos.
Have fun with your trains
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vsmith
Member since
December 2001
From: Smoggy L.A.
10,743 posts
Posted by
vsmith
on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 4:31 PM
I would try the IHC simply because if used bachmann HO in the past and was not impressed by its performance. If you look around on ebay you could probaly find the old AHM and Rivarossi locos.
Have fun with your trains
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CP5415
Member since
July 2003
From: Whitby, ON
2,594 posts
Posted by
CP5415
on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 4:49 PM
I have a 4-4-0 AHM locomotive I got from my Dad. It's close to 40 years old. It still runs great. The IHC models I've seen are extremely similar. I'd go with IHC.
Just my 2 cents
Gordon
Brought to you by the letters C.P.R. as well as D&H!
K1a - all the way
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CP5415
Member since
July 2003
From: Whitby, ON
2,594 posts
Posted by
CP5415
on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 4:49 PM
I have a 4-4-0 AHM locomotive I got from my Dad. It's close to 40 years old. It still runs great. The IHC models I've seen are extremely similar. I'd go with IHC.
Just my 2 cents
Gordon
Brought to you by the letters C.P.R. as well as D&H!
K1a - all the way
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Anonymous
Member since
April 2003
305,205 posts
Posted by
Anonymous
on Thursday, August 21, 2003 12:07 AM
IHC is better than the Bachmann, I had both of them. But if want another very good one it is a new model that is coming out from MDC (Round House Products). They are introducing the 4-4-0 in their old timer line.
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Anonymous
Member since
April 2003
305,205 posts
Posted by
Anonymous
on Thursday, August 21, 2003 12:07 AM
IHC is better than the Bachmann, I had both of them. But if want another very good one it is a new model that is coming out from MDC (Round House Products). They are introducing the 4-4-0 in their old timer line.
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AltonFan
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April 2003
From: US
1,522 posts
Posted by
AltonFan
on Thursday, August 21, 2003 12:32 PM
Didn't Mantua/Tyco have a 4-4-0 kit in their line?
Dan
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AltonFan
Member since
April 2003
From: US
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Posted by
AltonFan
on Thursday, August 21, 2003 12:32 PM
Didn't Mantua/Tyco have a 4-4-0 kit in their line?
Dan
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Anonymous
Member since
April 2003
305,205 posts
Posted by
Anonymous
on Thursday, August 21, 2003 3:25 PM
I have old locomotives and I like the Tyco. I recommend you use the NMRS gauge before purchase. Many of the old model wheels have flanges that are very deep. If you are using better quality throwouts, the flange will engage the points and guards. This can cause grief and derailments. On our club layout, they destroy the handlaid throwouts because they hammer the solder.
Lindsay
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Anonymous
Member since
April 2003
305,205 posts
Posted by
Anonymous
on Thursday, August 21, 2003 3:25 PM
I have old locomotives and I like the Tyco. I recommend you use the NMRS gauge before purchase. Many of the old model wheels have flanges that are very deep. If you are using better quality throwouts, the flange will engage the points and guards. This can cause grief and derailments. On our club layout, they destroy the handlaid throwouts because they hammer the solder.
Lindsay
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ort007
Member since
July 2003
From: Wichita, KS
77 posts
Posted by
ort007
on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 12:31 PM
Thanks for all the input. Looks like IHC is the winner (for now, at least)!
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ort007
Member since
July 2003
From: Wichita, KS
77 posts
Posted by
ort007
on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 12:31 PM
Thanks for all the input. Looks like IHC is the winner (for now, at least)!
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Anonymous
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April 2003
305,205 posts
Posted by
Anonymous
on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 3:30 PM
For what its worth, we have a Bachmann N scale one that runs great. And we have great dreams of gradually kitbashing a bunch of these to build up a fleet of various old-timers in different wheel configurations.
--Mo
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Anonymous
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April 2003
305,205 posts
Posted by
Anonymous
on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 3:30 PM
For what its worth, we have a Bachmann N scale one that runs great. And we have great dreams of gradually kitbashing a bunch of these to build up a fleet of various old-timers in different wheel configurations.
--Mo
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Anonymous
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April 2003
305,205 posts
Posted by
Anonymous
on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 8:56 PM
I bought the IHC 4-4-0 but find the performance "jerky". Any tips on how to improve performance?
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Anonymous
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April 2003
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Posted by
Anonymous
on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 8:56 PM
I bought the IHC 4-4-0 but find the performance "jerky". Any tips on how to improve performance?
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vsmith
Member since
December 2001
From: Smoggy L.A.
10,743 posts
Posted by
vsmith
on Wednesday, September 3, 2003 10:06 AM
FYI, MDC Roundhouse will be issueing a new 4-4-0 loco in HO sometime this year, it looks more like a late 19th c loco and we wont know how well it runs till it arrives, but just a heads up if your into that wild west RR thing.
Have fun with your trains
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vsmith
Member since
December 2001
From: Smoggy L.A.
10,743 posts
Posted by
vsmith
on Wednesday, September 3, 2003 10:06 AM
FYI, MDC Roundhouse will be issueing a new 4-4-0 loco in HO sometime this year, it looks more like a late 19th c loco and we wont know how well it runs till it arrives, but just a heads up if your into that wild west RR thing.
Have fun with your trains
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cacole
Member since
July 2003
From: Sierra Vista, Arizona
13,757 posts
Posted by
cacole
on Wednesday, September 3, 2003 11:00 AM
I use both IHC and Bachmann locos of every type and have been pleased with both. IHC models used to be made by Rivarossi, but are now made in China like everyone else's models. Bachmann locos have more detail than IHC; both use can motors; but if you intend to run DCC, Bachmann are easier to convert. Running qualities are practically indistinguishable between the two. The jerky motion mentioned is probably caused by dirty wheels -- you must keep your track and wheels clean, no matter what you are running, in order to get smooth operation out of a steam loco due to their relatively light weight.
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cacole
Member since
July 2003
From: Sierra Vista, Arizona
13,757 posts
Posted by
cacole
on Wednesday, September 3, 2003 11:00 AM
I use both IHC and Bachmann locos of every type and have been pleased with both. IHC models used to be made by Rivarossi, but are now made in China like everyone else's models. Bachmann locos have more detail than IHC; both use can motors; but if you intend to run DCC, Bachmann are easier to convert. Running qualities are practically indistinguishable between the two. The jerky motion mentioned is probably caused by dirty wheels -- you must keep your track and wheels clean, no matter what you are running, in order to get smooth operation out of a steam loco due to their relatively light weight.
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Anonymous
Member since
April 2003
305,205 posts
Posted by
Anonymous
on Wednesday, September 3, 2003 11:12 AM
I have HO IHC 4-4-0 and have just hardwired DCC in it. Not hard to do. What I'm having trouble with is the DSX decoder I put in. Can't get sound coordinated with engine. Also have Bachmann locos.
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Anonymous
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April 2003
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Posted by
Anonymous
on Wednesday, September 3, 2003 11:12 AM
I have HO IHC 4-4-0 and have just hardwired DCC in it. Not hard to do. What I'm having trouble with is the DSX decoder I put in. Can't get sound coordinated with engine. Also have Bachmann locos.
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