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Roadbed and Ballast Profiles

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Roadbed and Ballast Profiles
Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 5, 2003 2:32 PM
I have a question on roadbed. On mainline, cork roadbed works great, but I am planning a bookshelf industrial railroad that consists mainly of a network of sidings. Would a transition era prototype railroad have such high profile roadbed in low speed industrial area?

Should I lay the track right on my foam board base for sidings?

Any help on this one would be appreciated.

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Roadbed and Ballast Profiles
Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 5, 2003 2:32 PM
I have a question on roadbed. On mainline, cork roadbed works great, but I am planning a bookshelf industrial railroad that consists mainly of a network of sidings. Would a transition era prototype railroad have such high profile roadbed in low speed industrial area?

Should I lay the track right on my foam board base for sidings?

Any help on this one would be appreciated.

Mike
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 5, 2003 2:57 PM
You can find them both ways in real life but the majority was and still are pretty flat with maybe the mains being a little higher and of heavier track. The railroad tend to do things cheap as possible. They even use less ties in yards and leave them in the ground longer. Also, lots of yards are tranversed with truck traffic (team yards) and the ties are completely burried in gravel/dirt mixture and the cars "flange" out the dirt and rocks. All you see in these yard are the tops of the track with a 2" wide furrow on the inside edges.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 5, 2003 2:57 PM
You can find them both ways in real life but the majority was and still are pretty flat with maybe the mains being a little higher and of heavier track. The railroad tend to do things cheap as possible. They even use less ties in yards and leave them in the ground longer. Also, lots of yards are tranversed with truck traffic (team yards) and the ties are completely burried in gravel/dirt mixture and the cars "flange" out the dirt and rocks. All you see in these yard are the tops of the track with a 2" wide furrow on the inside edges.
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Posted by dknelson on Wednesday, August 6, 2003 8:19 AM
My experience is that industrial areas do not have much built up roadbed. The low speeds mean it is not so crucial to have great drainage. You might explore the sheet cork that is available (cannot recall if it is IBL or Midwest). Woodland Scenics also sells their foam in sheets that you can easily cut to fit with scissors.
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Posted by dknelson on Wednesday, August 6, 2003 8:19 AM
My experience is that industrial areas do not have much built up roadbed. The low speeds mean it is not so crucial to have great drainage. You might explore the sheet cork that is available (cannot recall if it is IBL or Midwest). Woodland Scenics also sells their foam in sheets that you can easily cut to fit with scissors.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 6, 2003 9:31 AM
Thanks for your input. This should get me on my way to laying track.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 6, 2003 9:31 AM
Thanks for your input. This should get me on my way to laying track.
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Posted by HuskyHoops on Wednesday, August 6, 2003 2:17 PM
My understanding is that sidings are typically lower than the mainline. I don't know how prototypically correct this would be, but if you're modeling HO scale, you may consider using N scale roadbed for your track to model the lower elevation of the siding.
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Posted by HuskyHoops on Wednesday, August 6, 2003 2:17 PM
My understanding is that sidings are typically lower than the mainline. I don't know how prototypically correct this would be, but if you're modeling HO scale, you may consider using N scale roadbed for your track to model the lower elevation of the siding.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 6, 2003 2:44 PM
Two of my friends have layouts that are very good and in some areas, they have no road bed at all. Still looks good.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 6, 2003 2:44 PM
Two of my friends have layouts that are very good and in some areas, they have no road bed at all. Still looks good.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 6, 2003 10:20 PM
Have never used roadbed in yards or sidings just ballast...and no problems
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 6, 2003 10:20 PM
Have never used roadbed in yards or sidings just ballast...and no problems

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