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[quote]QUOTE: Originally posted by AntonioFP45 Wow! How did UP wind up getting in this thread? Student of the Big Blue Sky, it is a worthwhile issue. Why don't you post a new thread on it. [/quote] Because they just get deleted. Now as to the Utah Belt, Exellent Model Railroad. Eric is a fantastic modeler. He is second only to Allen McClellend in his greatness. Eric, like Allen devised a concept for his railway and grounded it solidly in reality. Then stuck rigidly to that concept. Allen is only greater because he did it first. I am still trying to figure out how to build a house inwhich I can build my own GN model railroad. Ressurect the V&O Afton Divsion, and the Utah Belt and route traffic between all three. The only other thing I worry about is if Allen and Eric will have any problems with that. And the fact I would have all three set in 1969. As for the EMD vs GE debate. Its accademic. Both companies for years have designed their engines more around what the work is to perform rather than what looks good. To illistrate my point. the SD50 looks alot like an SD60 which looks alot like an SD70. Same thing with GE. Dash 8s look alot like Dash 9s wich look alot like like the new ES44s. Beuty is hardly a consideration in design. The fact that they both came out with design asthetics that have endeared fans to them is a secondary effect and happened purely by accident. As for Union Pacific, my hatred for how that company does business now clearly illistrates why I abandoned my old name "Grayhound Challenger" James
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