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[quote]QUOTE: Originally posted by cacole Everyone seems to be missing the simplest and most obvious solution to all of this argument about smoke and sound; and that is, if you don't like it, dont go there. [/quote] I can also argue the flip side. If what you're doing is irritating or bothering someone, then a CONSIDERATE person would do something to help the other person be more comfortable, personal values aside. If my vices bother you, then I should at least say I'm sorry when I pass gas, belch, grunt, cough, spit, etc. If I can do something to make it less noticeable, then that's all the better. It's called being a member of a considerate and civilized society. Same thing for noisey or smoking choo-choos. Turn the noise down a little, and maybe back off on the smoke some if you can tell it's bothering someone. Let face it, if a steamer is smoking TO SCALE, then it won't be making that much smoke. He ALSO won't be making that much noise TO SCALE. Mark in Utah
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