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[quote]QUOTE: Originally posted by Kiel-Holtenau Hannover (around 20 miles away) is where I tend to go by train anyway; I can commute there for free. [/quote]You forget the first rule of economics: TANSTASFL (pronounced tans-t-awful), there ain't no such thing as a free lunch. I don't know about Germany, but if you don't pay for a ticket or have a free pass, and maybe you do, because you work for them or something, I bet you still pay for it out of your taxes. <hr noshade size="1">[quote]QUOTE: Originally posted by Overduff Who is keeping track of the automotive ads, while out of one corner of their mouths they are touting SUVs and full size cars, they are whispering vehicles at 30+ miles per gallon. It isn't the price of the vehicle, it's what it's going to cost you. Maybe someone will wake up finally to the fact that we have sold our soles to the devil, and we need some new technology that is not petroleum based. Will[/quote]I would hardly call it selling our souls (not soles, unless you mean shoes), to the devil. Part of the problem with other sources of energy if that it would cost more to use than sticking with oil based methods. Take a look at hydrogen, how do you get it to run cars, well the easy way is to pass steam over hot coals. Lets use fossils fuels to produce hydrogen, for our clean cars. Or better yet we can build wind turbines that the great American bald eagle will fly into, and die. Since science has proven that we are not running out of oil, some places where the thought the well had run dry now have more oil in them, I think that if we could get the environmentalist to let us drill for oil off the coast of California, the gulf of Mexico, and Alaska, we could drop the price of oil significantly. <hr noshade size="1"> Nuclear power is a very good option for using less fuel, but the environmentalist also blocks that path. I was scoffed at before when I said that disposing of nuclear waste was not a huge problem. Here is what I heard from a retired officer of the Navy, who severed on diesel and nuclear subs, and worked directly under Admiral Rickover. What you do is you take the waste, the size of a marble that can run whole cities for years, and even then can be put into another reactor that uses the waste from the first reactor, coat it with glass and dump it into the Marianas trench. No radioactivity will contaminate the ocean and nothing lives that deep, and it couldn't be filled up for thousands of years. Of course you can't convince people of that, but it would work. I drive a Geo to my Local Hobby Shop, and get 50+ miles to the gallon. I always want, that when I build a bigger layout to have my local hobby shop, with an old Geo in the parking lot.
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