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Try the forum "the-gauge.com". There are alot of people doing logging there. They have a whole forum section on just logging. <br />From the research i've done, Shays worked grades up to 16%. It was said that if a Shay could get a toe hold, it would climb a tree. Typical max. speed was 12-15 mph with a normal working speed of about 5. They were geared so low that when doing 12 mph they sounded like a rod loco doing a 100. They were turning so fast at 15 mph that there was always the worry of things flying off from the high engine rpms. <br />Check out the Bachmann On30 stuff for logging locos and cars. Their Spectrum On30 is great.
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