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I am assuming the harley davidson set is tyco because the power pack is a tyco power pack. I guess they are not worth the money .To upgrade thanks for the inf. I think I will go with the bachmann dcc I am really on a low budget.It has taken me almost two months to come up with the money for the plywood and foam boardsI think the Dcc manufactors should say in there ads that running a dc engine with there systems is really not practicle.Dan
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