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4884 Bigboy. I'm going to give you the California Challenger Video and you can conduct a comparison and report back your on hands comprehensive evaluation. This thing is beinng beat to death like the old problematic Kato SD-2. I paid $307.00 for the Riv Allegheny and $262.00 for the Challenger with sound , remote, un-questionable warranty. I got my monies worth.
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