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Who's seen their proto-type.

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Posted by dinwitty on Thursday, June 2, 2005 8:01 PM
I am born too late for a lot of my prototypes, have to visit museums to check them out.

A lot of books helps and just some railroad smartness how to handle things.

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Posted by espeefoamer on Thursday, June 2, 2005 8:12 PM
I have a Bachmann GS4 4449.I have chased and ridden behind this engine several times[:D]!
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Posted by Virginian on Friday, June 3, 2005 4:15 AM
I got to see a lot of the real N&W and Virginian steam back in the '50's. I even got to blow the whistle on 608. I still miss it.
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Posted by ericsp on Friday, June 3, 2005 7:32 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by orsonroy

QUOTE: Originally posted by ericsp

QUOTE: Originally posted by 4884bigboy

SP SD7 #5327: I don't think there's any left.

Last time I was in Oakdale, CA (not Oakland) the Sierra Railroad had an SD7 still in SP paint. I think it was SP 1512.


There's one preserved at the Illinois Railway Museum, and just before they got bought out by IC&E, Illinois Rail Link had at least one running, usually stationed at Davis Junction. The last time I saw it was 2003.

I seem to recall SP bought the first SD7 (former demostrator) and that it was going to a museum. Is that it?

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Posted by 2059 on Saturday, June 4, 2005 10:03 PM
When I was about seven years old I got my first true HO locomotive which was an Athearn Blue Box Soo Line GP38-2 #4434. When I was about twelve I saw it in the Wisconsin Dells. Two years ago I saw Union Pacific SD90MAC #8038 close to my home right after I had purchased one of the Kato models. I even managed to take a few pictures since it had been stopped waiting to let off coal cars at the local powerplant.
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Posted by leighant on Saturday, June 4, 2005 11:30 PM
I was disappointed when I opened this topic and saw it specified prototype ENGINE. While I was opening it, I thought of all the aspects of the prototype railroading of the middle 1950s I model in bits and pieces.
I am modeling the Santa Fe Texas Chief traveling to and from Galveston over a long causeway over the water, and through Houston.
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I have "seen" the prototype in bits and pieces. When I was 9, 10, 11 years old, I would be with my family going home from I thought of as a late evening and see the silver train backing into Houston Union Station. I could read it was Santa Fe but didn't know it was called the Texas Chief. It just looked like my Lionel set with the long stainless steel cars.
I rode the "Texas Chief" north from Houston in one of the first years of Amtrak, the last month the Santa Fe warbonnet F-units were used. Later I experienced riding a tourist train from Houston over the causeway into Galveston over part of the route of the mid-1950s Texas Chief.
I didn't ride the classic accomodation mail train but when I was without a car and had to ride the intercity bus, I thought how much the operation, stopping in each little town to drop off packages was like the operation (not the rolling stock) of the old local.
I have found bits and pieces of the operations and cars and industries I model in photos, museums and in actual use of one sort or another.
I have walked through stations that have been turned into local history museums or restaurants or chambers of commerce or tourist information centers to experience the buildings.
While researching a model of a blimp base as a destination for helium railcars, I visited the ruins of a blimp base where the main signs of what had been called equivalent to the world's largest wooden building was the concrete corner posts of the
blimp doors....concrete posts 20 stories tall outlining a space 200 feet across the doorway and 900 feet long to the other end doors...
Being tipped to catch a movement of a 200 foot long refining tower carried on 2 24-wheel flatcars with an idler flat between them.
Following one leg of a freight train to a junction where another leg of the train from another branch pulls in five minutes later, and the two trains are combined withjin about ten minutes.

Driving the roadbed of David Moffat's Denver and Salt Lake, tunnels and trestles and snowsheds over a 11,600 foot pass.

To me, that is seeing the prototype.
Funny, when I think of prototype, I don't think of JUST the engine....
Just me I guess.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, June 5, 2005 12:07 AM
I model Swiss 1/45th O meter gauge (Om) and have 5 locomotives all of which I have seen and except for the shunter (switcher) have ridden behind in scheduled passenger service.
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Posted by orsonroy on Sunday, June 5, 2005 8:44 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by ericsp

QUOTE: Originally posted by orsonroy

QUOTE: Originally posted by ericsp

QUOTE: Originally posted by 4884bigboy

SP SD7 #5327: I don't think there's any left.

Last time I was in Oakdale, CA (not Oakland) the Sierra Railroad had an SD7 still in SP paint. I think it was SP 1512.


There's one preserved at the Illinois Railway Museum, and just before they got bought out by IC&E, Illinois Rail Link had at least one running, usually stationed at Davis Junction. The last time I saw it was 2003.

I seem to recall SP bought the first SD7 (former demostrator) and that it was going to a museum. Is that it?


Yep. IRM's also got the first GP7, a C&NW unit. Both still run, and occasionally pull trains (especially during diesel days)

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Posted by Eriediamond on Sunday, June 5, 2005 9:35 AM
Having grown up in the 40's, I've seen quite a lot of the steam engines we model that ran through the western NY area along Lake Erie and south of Buffalo. Particularly the Erie, NYC, PRR, Nickleplate and Reading. However as much as I love those old and now gone steamers, I can't say I saw any particular engine I model. Having said that, my models represent what I remember of that era and nothing else. Also, I'm not one to do much research either. In other words, my Erie "mike" from Rivarossi represents what I remember, but I don't know if the engine number is one that Erie had, nor do I really care.I only care that my layout is representative of those times and what I remember of them. Thanks, Ken
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Posted by Don Gibson on Sunday, June 5, 2005 3:22 PM
I find I enjoy modeling the train's of an era I actually rode on:

SP San Juaquin and Coast 'Daylight's
AT&SF El Capitan, Super Chief, Golden Gate, and San Diegan (with E-1's and E-3's).
WP/D&RGW Cal.Zephyr.

Most fun was clocking mile post's at 110MPH on the 16 car combined Super & El Cap. between La Junta and Dodge City.

With 85' passenger car's I narrowed my layout to 3' and created 46"r curves by pushing the layout into 3 corners, with a new return loop behind me. Surprisingly, I used up only a little more floor space.
Don Gibson .............. ________ _______ I I__()____||__| ||||| I / I ((|__|----------| | |||||||||| I ______ I // o--O O O O-----o o OO-------OO ###########################
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Posted by 88gta350 on Sunday, June 5, 2005 6:35 PM
My prototype was abandonded in 1940, so I've only seen pictures. And my prototype, having been abandonded in 1940, never ran GP-38s like I will.
Dave M

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