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Thanks for all of the ideas most of what I had left on my layout have been converted to ground throws,Since wirless dcc came into the picture,the need to remotely control turnouts has fallen by the wayside.NZRmac JPM335 was right on the money they are atlas#4.Don Gibson i think I read somewhere about those unrealistic black frogs I have never had time to address that issue.And really never gave it much thought untill now.Hmmm. I never intended to cover every turnout machine in the same way ,there are tracksheds ,and i have built oil loading and fuel storage using old tank cars to cover them up.My intention was just to provide the newer guys a cheap 10 min fix to a old problem untill they advanced their skill and tried other more realistic things.This is one of the last sections standing as i continue to tear down my layout and just wanted to try and give back a little for all I have taken from this forum and its great membership.Thanks again and Happy New Year to all.
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