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JEREMY, ATHERN LOCOS DO SOUND A BIT NOISY BUT FOR THE PRICE ITS WORTH IT YOU CAN DO ALOT WITH ATHERN LOCO FAR AS DETAILS SWAP THE MOTOR OUT AND IT WILL RUN MUCH QUIETER EASY TO WORK ON.I HAVE A COUPLE OF THEM WILL BUY SOME MORE.AND THE NEWER ONES THAT THEY ARE COMING OUT WITH ARE SOMEWHAT PRICEY BUT STILL LESS EXPENSIVE THAN KATO,ATLAS
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