mbinsewiWayne, could you please tell us what year and month this was in? I'd like to check it out, and get some use of my archives subscription. Thanks! Mike.
That would have been February, 1980...it was a reasonably small entry, but I guess it was enough to be useful.
Wayne
Thanks Wayne,
Doing some digging on my own, I used the link to a search site that mentioned in my thread on "Searching the Archives", and found your name mentioned on 3 different articles,
February, 1980, page 128,
March, 1982, page 120, about a calendar,
January, 1998, page 160.
That site works pretty well, FYI.
https://rrmagazineindex.org/
Also, in one of those 3 mags, there was an article about the differences of the GP7 and 9.
Mike.
ps. I'm STILL npt letting MR off the hook about searching the archives....
ps. Now that we've totally beat up the OP's thread, I wonder if he's moved on? Sheldon's question still remains.
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crossthedog Doughless Athearn may have used the term GP7 in its marketing, or that may just be what some modelers called Athearn's GP9 because they thought it looked more like a GP7. I don't know if there were really two different models or if the naming used by modelers over the years added to the confusion. My guess is that the shell you want to buy will fit over the chassis you have because I don't think Athearn really made a GP7 AND a GP9...they are just called two different locos depending upon who you ask. Wait, what?... You're suggesting Athearn may not have put something on the end of the box, like "GP7" or "GP9"? That seems like something someone could quickly verify, with all the "yes-I-keep-the-original-box"ers around here. Personally, I find it hard to believe, although I'm on Kevin's side of the gym in this Dodgeball game. I've only recently started becoming interested in these locos, still have much to learn. -Matt
Doughless Athearn may have used the term GP7 in its marketing, or that may just be what some modelers called Athearn's GP9 because they thought it looked more like a GP7. I don't know if there were really two different models or if the naming used by modelers over the years added to the confusion. My guess is that the shell you want to buy will fit over the chassis you have because I don't think Athearn really made a GP7 AND a GP9...they are just called two different locos depending upon who you ask.
Wait, what?... You're suggesting Athearn may not have put something on the end of the box, like "GP7" or "GP9"? That seems like something someone could quickly verify, with all the "yes-I-keep-the-original-box"ers around here. Personally, I find it hard to believe, although I'm on Kevin's side of the gym in this Dodgeball game. I've only recently started becoming interested in these locos, still have much to learn.
-Matt
I'm with you. Calling the loco whatever name they put on the box should be what everybody else calls it when referring to the Athearn loco.
But as is the case in this hobby, smarty pants' have to count louvers or other details and tell us how wrong Athearn is, then the name of the Athearn loco gets changed based upon what others' want to call it. Now we're all confused.
So we need OP to tell us what loco he has by looking at the box it came in (I assume we all save the boxes? Oops). That way when he "claims" to have an Athearn GP7, we'll know if he actually possibly has a GP7 as Athearn labeled it, or if he has an Athearn labeled GP9 that he was told at some point was really a GP7 if Athearn wasn't so "dumb" back then as to call a GP7 a GP9.
Again, I suspect he really has a GP9 (because I think there is only 1 high nosed Athearn BB GP locomotive, and they called it a GP9). In which case the GP9 shell he wants to buy would fit.
- Douglas
ATLANTIC CENTRAL crossthedog Doughless Athearn may have used the term GP7 in its marketing, or that may just be what some modelers called Athearn's GP9 because they thought it looked more like a GP7. I don't know if there were really two different models or if the naming used by modelers over the years added to the confusion. My guess is that the shell you want to buy will fit over the chassis you have because I don't think Athearn really made a GP7 AND a GP9...they are just called two different locos depending upon who you ask. Wait, what?... You're suggesting Athearn may not have put something on the end of the box, like "GP7" or "GP9"? That seems like something someone could quickly verify, with all the "yes-I-keep-the-original-box"ers around here. Personally, I find it hard to believe, although I'm on Kevin's side of the gym in this Dodgeball game. I've only recently started becoming interested in these locos, still have much to learn. -Matt Again to clarify, remember I was worked in the business going back to the 70's, ATHEARN ALWAYS labeled the Blue Box Geep as a GP9. There has only ever been that one body, that one tooling of the Blue Box loco. EVERY Athearn list, catalog, marking on the end of a box, Walthers catalog listing, etc, calls it a GP9. BUT, if you examine the model, the only model, that was never changed, it has features that clearly identify it as a passenger boiler and dynamic brake equiped GP7. It was labeled wrong from day one..... Since the prototype locos are so close in appearance, and few modelers back in the day had access or knowledge of these minor differences, it just stayed that way - miss labeled. Sheldon
Again to clarify, remember I was worked in the business going back to the 70's, ATHEARN ALWAYS labeled the Blue Box Geep as a GP9. There has only ever been that one body, that one tooling of the Blue Box loco.
EVERY Athearn list, catalog, marking on the end of a box, Walthers catalog listing, etc, calls it a GP9.
BUT, if you examine the model, the only model, that was never changed, it has features that clearly identify it as a passenger boiler and dynamic brake equiped GP7.
It was labeled wrong from day one.....
Since the prototype locos are so close in appearance, and few modelers back in the day had access or knowledge of these minor differences, it just stayed that way - miss labeled.
Sheldon
Thanks. Yes, that's the way I think of it too.
OP has a GP that looks more like a GP7 than a GP9, but its the Athearn BB GP9 we all know. So if he is looking at a seller who is advertising an Athearn GP9, then its highly likely its the same shell he has a chassis for.
Unless we talk about Genesis of course......
Since the OP hasn't commented since 3/20, I fear all the "smart guys" have scared him off! He just wanted a yes or no answer. In light of the information he provided, perhaps a "maybe" would be the correct answer.