Have a Walthers dicontinued built buildng and don't remember what kit it was. Is there a master list somewhere that I can look it up? People ask me and i can't tell them. It is a three story building with lower wings on both sides and an indoor unloading platform on the back. I thnk it was listed as a flour mill. Need help. thanks
a bit more description would be helpful. Is it brick, wood, concrete, etc. Unfortunately the Walthers website has become so opaque and unhelpful for almost any kind of search that I find it next to useless, and some folks at Walthers privately agree. When you go to the Walthers showroom you see people using the paper catalog even though there are computer terminals available to use the online version. It used to be just the opposite before somebody decided to "improve" things.
That is unfortunate because Walthers does keep -- somewhere -- on the online version information, photos, catalog numbers, and basic info such as footprint size for current as well as (some) discontinued buildings and other discontinued items. Sometimes the only way to find yourself into their catalog's backlot is to do a general "google images" search, which is something you may want to consider doing.
This is why I keep old Walthers catalogs. I don't save each and every one but selectively maybe every 5th year's.
Dave Nelson
That would only help to a point as Walters reused a lot of the kits in different kits. Or created combined kits. Sometimes discontinuing a kit to reintroduce it under a different kit. Sometimes they just change the name and mold injection colors ( something Lionel started I. Postwar and is commonly copied now) Walters now has a kit that has been around 30 plus years under different manufacturers and names. It can be hard to look up a kit without the original name and knowing what details it has. Hoseeker.com is most likely where a list exists. But I don't think Walters the s selves has one.
shane
A pessimist sees a dark tunnel
An optimist sees the light at the end of the tunnel
A realist sees a frieght train
An engineer sees three idiots standing on the tracks stairing blankly in space
How about posting a photo?
Rich
Alton Junction
Yeah, what he said.
Try doing a Google search for List of discountinued Walthers buildings. Then look at images, you might get lucky.
Quite a long page of buildings come up.
Then click on Show more results, and you get many more.
Worth a try.
Mike.
My You Tube
Perhps Walthers keeps it?
A photo might help someone identify it for you
ndbprr Have a Walthers dicontinued built buildng and don't remember what kit it was. Is there a master list somewhere that I can look it up? People ask me and i can't tell them. It is a three story building with lower wings on both sides and an indoor unloading platform on the back. I thnk it was listed as a flour mill. Need help. thanks
A quick look through my catalogs back to the Cornerstone era at three story buildings and footprint with lower wings on both sides but the "indoor unloading platform on the back" is the stumper. Do railcars go into the building? Indoor unloading platform to me would be the building's floor or a raised up platform inside the building. No dock is mentioned (docks would be mostly outside on Walthers buildings). Now would the loading/unloading truck or railcar be outside and right next to the building's wall and overhead doors?
The OP's description in my mind on top of the paper and the Walton Lumber Mill building on the bottom of the paper with indoor unloading platforms to unload lumber (I have to be so way off, flour mill lumber mill, not three storys, but). I do not know if the rails go in one end and out the other end.
the building is an industrial building like the top one but the unloading track is on the back and horizontal and goes in the building. if i had any idea of how to post a picture i would have. unfortunately a cardiac arrest has wiped out nearly all my computer skills and i have great difficulty with computer commands.
The only flour mill is the redwing kit. But that is a low relief and square. The farmers coop. Or valley growers is a elevator bu only has one wing to it that is the unloading area. It is a stand alone kit. Comes with a seperate smaller building. That one is grey while the coop version is red.
the only kit I see so far is the one that got reincarnated as the rail car builder then in its third version of life the Vulcan manufacture with a gantry crane
It might be the prairie star milking kit. That has the shape described. But no internal loading dock and is like 6 stories or more. It was also combined with the redwing elevator kit Closest I could find to what was described and was introduced way back in 2006.
ndbprr It is a three story building with lower wings on both sides and an indoor unloading platform on the back.
It is a three story building with lower wings on both sides and an indoor unloading platform on the back.
For some reason, Korber building kits comes to mind. I think these kits were modular and came in various combinations. American Flag Company and Acme Nuts & Bolts were two. I remember considering these in the 1990s for my layout. Perhaps one a variation of these kits?
They had concrete & brick walls. Each section had squared concrete pillars and floors, with each "bay" of the wall structure having a brick lower wall half & all windows upper half.
NVSRRThe only flour mill is the redwing kit. But that is a low relief and square.
If I'm not mistaken, that was one of the Walthers kits that I used for part of GERN Industries...
...but it was built using the walls on the visible sides of the structure, with the normally unseen sides done with .060" sheet styrene.
I also used the Walthers Vulcan kit for Bertram's but didn't use the gantry crane, although there were a lot of add-on scratch-builds using left-over parts from a variety of sources, and the visible side of the building used the wall sections from what would have been the back of the structure...which was done using .060" sheet styrene.
I have lots of Walthers structure kits, but most of them were not built following the kit instructions.
Here's an example, using two identical Walthers kits, with another .060" piece of sheet styrene acting as the unseen rear wall...
I opted to create the loading dock semi-indoors...
Most of the Walthers kits that I've built were not done following the kits' instructions.
Wayne
Just a thought - maybe go to Google and put in a search for something like "Walthers Cornerstone HO industrial building" and then click on "Images" and see what comes up. Maybe a picture of it will come up.
Otherwise, if you know approximately how old it is, try to track down a Walthers HO catalogue from that time. Perhaps a local club or hobby shop might have some old catalogues laying around?
Mea Culpa. i was wrong. the back loading track goes behind the building and it is six stories tall in the center. Went through my unused decals and it is the prarie star milling company which I converted to a printing company that prints magazines that ship in PRR b60b cars, Sorry for the curve ball.
ndbprr Mea Culpa. i was wrong. the back loading track goes behind the building and it is six stories tall in the center. Went through my unused decals and it is the prarie star milling company which I converted to a printing company that prints magazines that ship in PRR b60b cars, Sorry for the curve ball.
@ndbbprr. Thank you for a fun evening of Walthers catalog skimming. I really mean that. It was a joy to look at what is current, past and not such a joy what is no more. I am glad you found out what you needed. Yes, going from your three storys to six (I count four) was a wide curve ball. The #933-2914 HO scale Prairie Star Milling building is 8-3/4'' deep front to back x 12-3/4'' long side to side and 9-3/4'' tall (scales out at 70'-6'' tall), a great kit to make "fit in" to a layout. Keep up with the PT and keep those machines printing.
Find me something else to track down.
Now if someone can explain Walthers pricing because PRR b60b baggage cars were introduced about twenty years ago for about $25.00. Allowing for 100% inflation which is conservatively very high they should be about $50.00. They now list for $89.00. This seems to be the norm for Walthers that the best price on anything is the initial offering and then exorbitant price increases on further releases.
ndbprrNow if someone can explain Walthers pricing.
An explanation of pricing on anything right now would be difficult.
I believe things will stabilize across all markets within a year.
Here is hoping...
-Kevin
Living the dream.
ndbprr Now if someone can explain Walthers pricing because PRR b60b baggage cars were introduced about twenty years ago for about $25.00. Allowing for 100% inflation which is conservatively very high they should be about $50.00. They now list for $89.00. This seems to be the norm for Walthers that the best price on anything is the initial offering and then exorbitant price increases on further releases.
This all sounds like the Prairie star milling kit. It doesn't have internal loading but a metal canopy. I had always wanted that kit to complete a milling complex and had only saw it on random websites I felt uncertain ordering from. Then one day a contractor doing work in my building saw part of my layout in the basement. He was selling old kits he built and had only partially finished the prairie milling and no longer wanted it. Sold it to me cheap and I finished it and it's one of my favorite kits.
Link to the old model.
https://www.walthers.com/cornerstone-series-r-prairie-star-milling-kit-8-3-4-x-12-3-4-x-9-3-4-quot-empty
ndbprrNow if someone can explain Walthers
I just knew eventually it would happen.
I have to go along with the suggestion of the Prairie Star Mill, until we see a picture.
The Walthers #932-5875 B60b baggage car in Penncentral dark green on 10/20/2005 cost me $34.99 and you had to install the grab irons yourself. The Walthers 2008 catalog shows a price of $34.98. I can think the price I paid was slightly high knowing the brick and mortar seller.
Could the grab irons be installed on the current B60b models from the factory? +$