cv_acr maxman Why does it not fit your era? Isn't that an 11-80 rebuild date on the left end of the car? Depends on his era... 1980-2000 is 20 years, to current day is 40 years, and the original car is of course much older than the 1980 re-build/re-weigh date, which would pretty much put this thing out of service before the start of the 21st century.
maxman Why does it not fit your era? Isn't that an 11-80 rebuild date on the left end of the car?
Depends on his era...
1980-2000 is 20 years, to current day is 40 years, and the original car is of course much older than the 1980 re-build/re-weigh date, which would pretty much put this thing out of service before the start of the 21st century.
Those stubby hoppers were replaced by bigger hoppers designed and built in the 70s. They may have lasted a while on the CIRR, but that railroad bought the big ones new.
RRpicturesarchives.net. Date, 1991
- Douglas
The model does show "BLT 12-50" but I'm not sure that means it couldn't be used on a "modern" layout. I believe CN is still using some DMIR ore cars built around that time, I think the max time for a car is 70 or 75 years.
I mean, there's nothing wrong with the OP's idea of doing two eras, my own layout is being built to rotate between several time frames over a 50 or 60 year period. But I don't know if this car (well weathered anyway) would really look that wrong on a 2001-2021 era layout, even if it technically is?
wjstix The model does show "BLT 12-50" but I'm not sure that means it couldn't be used on a "modern" layout. I believe CN is still using some DMIR ore cars built around that time, I think the max time for a car is 70 or 75 years. I mean, there's nothing wrong with the OP's idea of doing two eras, my own layout is being built to rotate between several time frames over a 50 or 60 year period. But I don't know if this car (well weathered anyway) would really look that wrong on a 2001-2021 era layout, even if it technically is?
It wouldn't be a problem really. License can be extended, as I'm not a real stickler. Thruth is that I like a lot of other aspects of both eras, and that would ultimately be the motivation for two layouts, or dual era in one.
Another option for wood chip hoppers outside of era would be these, which are mainly used for trash hauling presently. Originally a 50 foot coal gondola.
What no one has mentioned is that if you have a 2020's era railroad, someone, somewhere could be running a 1950s passenger train as a historical restoration, a "dinner train" or some person's expensive 12 inch to the foot scale hobby.
If you have a 1950's railroad, the only what you can have a GEVO locomotive is if someone invented a time machine. You can always "time travel" forward in time by being placed into some kind of Rip Van Winkle deep sleep and waking up in the future. Going back in time is something the professors in the Physics department haven't yet figure out how to do.
If GM "killed the electric car", what am I doing standing next to an EV-1, a half a block from the WSOR tracks?
LastspikemikeI too bought a couple of the Bowser converted chip gondolas in CP Multimark colours. They only ran in the Atlantic region in reality but, I liked 'em so I got 'em.
When mechanical refrigeration became widespread, CN and CP both converted a lot of their ice-cooled reefers into wood-chip cars, with the hinged doors welded shut and the sides heightened using the upper portion of scrapped hoppers and gondolas.In the '60s and '70s, trains of them passed through here frequently, on their way to the paper mills in Thorold, Ontario.
My layout didn't originally have a set time-frame, and I had more diesels than I did steam, and more modern ('60s/'70s) rolling stock than older style cars.As I continued to develop my layout, it seemed that there were more structures that weren't modern at all, and many were not all that large, either. It finally occurred to me that many would have never been rail-served in that era, and that's when I decided to back-date my layout to the "late '30s".Further impetus for that timeframe came from Bachmann's release of their new Consolidations, soon followed by Athearn's Mikados and Pacifics.I sold-off (or gave-away) most of my diesels (there are some regrets there) and almost all of my too-modern rolling stock, freight and passenger, and some steamers that weren't really appropriate for my layout's era and supposed-locale.
I did make a considerable bundle on that sale, though, which allowed me to stock-up on era-appropriate locomotives and rolling stock, along with structure kits and a very good supply of scratchbuilding materials.
I still have several diesels left, usually in a display cabinet, but I'll sometimes put them on the layout when my grandkids want to see diesels...none of which are "modern".
Much of my layout represents memories of industries and businesses in my hometown and the surrounding area, but most of it intentionally is not copies of the original, as they would totally overwhelm the layout.
The railroad is point-to-point (actually five stub-ended "yards") where trains are made-up or "gone elsewhere" (usually back in their respective boxes). There are eight "towns/cities" at least partially represented, all with some industries needing rail service (and not much in the way of neighbourhoods for local workers), with double track through all such locations, with run-arounds to accommodate car spotting or pick-up in either direction.
The layout is only presentable in a few places, and there's probably more to be done than I'll have time for completing it all, so operations are when I feel like it, and done in a manner that suits me, whether it's prototypical or not.
Wayne
Paul Milenkovic What no one has mentioned is that if you have a 2020's era railroad, someone, somewhere could be running a 1950s passenger train as a historical restoration, a "dinner train" or some person's expensive 12 inch to the foot scale hobby. If you have a 1950's railroad, the only what you can have a GEVO locomotive is if someone invented a time machine. You can always "time travel" forward in time by being placed into some kind of Rip Van Winkle deep sleep and waking up in the future. Going back in time is something the professors in the Physics department haven't yet figure out how to do.
Simon
doctorwayneI sold-off (or gave-away) most of my diesels (there are some regrets there)
Those SW1200RSs were very nice.
doctorwayne so operations are when I feel like it, and done in a manner that suits me, whether it's prototypical or not
I think its important to have a sense of era, place, and operations to build a good understanding and foundation.
But what operations ultimately look like probably evolves into simply finding reasons to employ our favorite models in a realistic setting.
Doughless...Those SW1200RSs were very nice....
Thanks for your kind comment, Douglas. Even though they weren't true replicas of the SW1200RS diesels, they were my favourite EMD/GMD diesels (as were the real ones). The ones from Rapido are much truer examples, but I did get one of mine returned, as it apparently wouldn't run. I drove down to a place near Syracuse to pick it up and re-imburse the buyer.When I checked it over, the can motor was missing one of the carbon brushes - I can't imagine how it was lost (the loco ran fine the day I packaged it for mailing) so I simply replaced the missing brush with a piece of lead from a mechanical draughting pencil...she runs like a charm and pulls like an ox, and gets track time when the grandkids ask for a diesel.