Dullcote

[WPA]

I may be rehashing many old post across many forums but as time has past and Dullcote shelf in the store gathers more dust seeing how folks are making out with spray can options. Was going to try Rust Oleom dead flat. Looking for non airbrush option.  

[BigDaddy]

I recall reading good things about Tamyia in a can.  Dullcote comes out too heavy from a spray can to suit me.  Rustoleum may be too heavy too.

[snjroy]

I use acrylics and I've been using Americana Clear Coat for about a year now. My understanding is that Dullcoat is being discontinued (I searched the Testors section of the Rustoleum Website, could not find it). 

Simon

[Overmod]

Dullcote shouldn't have been discontinued as the versions are Testor's brand.  It appears to me that the 1160 in a bottle is still listed as in stock; it's the spray cans that are MIA.  It is a long time since I actually bought Dullcote so that may not be current.  JoAnn's Minnesota Fabrics claims it's in stock -- it might be; who'd have thought they would have that sort of thing...

I have used damar/Kamar varnish, and this:

https://www.dickblick.com/items/winsor--newton-spray-varnish-matt-varnish-400-ml-can/

[SeeYou190]

snjroy

My understanding is that Dullcoat is being discontinued (I searched the Testors section of the Rustoleum Website, could not find it). 

From the Testors web page:

Testors Web Page

-Kevin

[dknelson]

For the last couple of years the trade name "DullCote" does not seem to appear on the spray can label, only on a small sleeve of paper, as if Testors is or was slowly phasing out the name, but not the product.  

Dave Nelson

 

[SeeYou190]

dknelson

For the last couple of years the trade name "DullCote" does not seem to appear on the spray can label.

I had not noticed this change.

When I need to find it, I search for "Testors 1260", not the brand name.

I found a work-around and did not even realize it.

-Kevin

[snjroy]

Ah, that's why I could not find it!

[doctorwayne]

WPA

I may be rehashing many old post across many forums but as time has past and Dullcote shelf in the store gathers more dust seeing how folks are making out with spray can options. Was going to try Rust Oleom dead flat. Looking for non airbrush option.  

 

 

Around here, Dullcote (and Glosscote) in bottles can be difficult to find, as most modellers seem to prefer it over the spray cans, as the latter allows little control over the amount being applied.

I have, however, noticed that a lot of modellers who own airbrushes don't use them, as they seem to whine incessantly about how difficult it is to clean them.

In my experience, the only difficulty might arise if one neglects to clean the airbrush immediately after using it.

There are several advantages of an airbrush over most spray cans: better control, both directional and in the amount applied, very easy to apply next to areas where you don't want overspray, and the possibility to create a multitude of various finishes by combining Glosscote and Dullcote in varying percentages to create semi-glosses of all types.

An airbrush also ensures that there's no unnecessary waste - what's not used can go back in the bottle, ready for use in the next session of painting, whereas the stuff in the spray can is often impossible to access later if the nozzle is clogged and can't be cleaned.

I'd also guess that you'd likely get twice the mileage from the bottle versus the spray can, as it seems that a 50/50 mix of Dullcote (or Glosscote) with lacquer thinner is perfect for airbrushing.

The lacquer thinner, on its own, is also perfect for cleaning your airbrush after use or between changes of paint-types or colours, as it works well for removing any type of paint:  use the colour cup (it's too small and generally useless for painting) to run some through the airbrush after a painting session, then disassemble the brush to complete the clean-up...a couple of minutes, at most.

 

Wayne

[MisterBeasley]

I use a rattle can of Krylon flat.  I use a flattener to take out the glossy look, seal in decals and sometimes to give a model some "tooth" for adding weathering powders, and then another blast to seal them in.  So, I typically do an entire boxcar and I'll one do the trucks separately, so I don't need much precision.

[SeeYou190]

doctorwayne

Around here, Dullcote (and Glosscote) in bottles can be difficult to find,

Same here.

When I found a bunch at a hobby shop in Michigan, I bought my lifetime supply! Well, probably not, but it is a lot.

-Kevin

[RR_Mel]

I can still get Dullcote at a LHS and I keep a can of Krylon and Rustoleum matte on hand.  The Dullcote appears to me to be a bit finer spray.
 

Mel



 
My Model Railroad   
http://melvineperry.blogspot.com/
 
Bakersfield, California
 
I'm beginning to realize that aging is not for wimps.

[WPA]

The LHS gets a few cans at a time and it is gone. Micheals has been out locally and online. Nothing in stock at the usual online hobby retailers either. Fact or fiction someone posted a response from rust oleum on fine scale modeler forum saying backlog to be addressed mid to late April. Will give dead flat a try. For now, sealing some weathering on buildings and may break out air brush for rolling stock weathering or maybe it will be back on shelves at some point.

[WPA]

In case anyone is in search of Dullcote, Hobbylinc.com now has it in stock.  

[tankertoad135]

Although I have found some fine, flat and chalky oversprays from the paint department at our local paint store, I still use a 50/50 combo of Dullcoat and Glosscoat as a finishing spray for locomotives.  That combo provides a very nice finishing touch!! 

As Doctor Wayne stated, cleaning your airbrush thoroughly after each use a must, and not difficult at all.  I finally broke down and purchased an airbrush cleaning kit from Paasche for my airbrushes.  It works superbly and I wish I had purchase it long ago.

[speedybee]

Because my trains are exposed to natural light, I've sprayed them with Krylon UV archival matte varnish https://www.krylon.ca/products/uv-archival-varnish/ to prevent colours from fading. It also endows a rather nice flat finish that, IMO, makes plastic look much less like plastic.

I've never used Dullcote so I can't say how it compares. I like the appearance and UV protection that this product provides.

 

[SeeYou190]

speedybee

Because my trains are exposed to natural light, I've sprayed them with Krylon UV archival matte varnish to prevent colours from fading. It also endows a rather nice flat finish that, IMO, makes plastic look much less like plastic.

Where do you buy this?

-Kevin

[gmpullman]

SeeYou190

Where do you buy this?

I don't know where speedybee got his but I've purchased it at Dick Blick in the past:

https://www.dickblick.com/products/krylon-gallery-series-uv-archival-varnish/

YMMV,

P.S. re: Dullcote. I'm sure glad to see Testors/Rustoleum got rid of the silly paper strip that glues the cap in place 

Cheers, Ed

[Overmod]

gmpullman

SeeYou190

Where do you buy this?

I don't know where speedybee got his but I've purchased it at Dick Blick in the past:

https://www.dickblick.com/products/krylon-gallery-series-uv-archival-varnish/

We should have a 'dull-off' between this and

https://www.dickblick.com/items/winsor--newton-spray-varnish-matt-varnish-400-ml-can/

to see the advantages and disadvantages of each for model-railroading purposes.

[gmpullman]

I might have some issue with the 6 - 12 month substrate drying time

This varnish dries to a flat, non-glossy finish, suitable for oil, alkyd, and acrylic paintings. Paintings must be thoroughly dry (at least 6–12 months) prior to application.

There are certainly many clear finishes out there. I'm familiar with Dullcote, both rattle can and bottled as well as the products offered from Scalecoat.

Another forum suggested Rustoleum Dead Flat. I thought that stuff was awful for any kind of model work 

The Krylon product previously mentioned was praised for its UV resistant properties. Something I'll file away for future use in a garden railroad setting.

Thank You, Ed

[speedybee]

SeeYou190

Where do you buy this?

I got it from Above Ground art supplies... they're local to Toronto, but I expect the stuff or similar would be available at most real artist supply stores (though not at the likes of Michael's, last I checked).

Re: the 6 to 12 month substrate drying, I expect that refers to oil paintings, where artists slather on very thick layers of oil paint; not relevant to us.