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Possible alternative for modeling pipe loads
Posted by hon30critter on Sunday, April 18, 2021 12:05 AM

Hi gang!

Dianne and I have decided to put up a solitary bee house in our garden. What does that have to do with model trains you ask? Well, the cardboard tubes that are used in the bee house also happen to resemble culverts in HO scale. Here are the tubes:

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B01AM7Y9N4/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

They are not exactly cheap, but they are far less expensive than dedicated HO scale pipe loads. They are a bit bigger than paper straws (5/16" dia.), and they are much more substantial.

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Posted by "JaBear" on Sunday, April 18, 2021 12:35 AM
Sign of a dedicated model railroader; is “that” going to have a use on the layout?
Cheers, the Bear.Big Smile

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Posted by hon30critter on Sunday, April 18, 2021 12:47 AM

Sign of a dedicated model railroader; is “that” going to have a use on the layout? Cheers, the Bear.

Ya, as long as the bees don't move into the pipe loads!Smile, Wink & GrinLaughLaugh

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Posted by mobilman44 on Sunday, April 18, 2021 5:04 AM

I used plastic straws, glued together and then painted grey, followed by a slight rust colored wash.  I dipped the ends in flat black, which disquised the thin walls of the straws.  The end result worked quite well IMO..........

ENJOY  !

 

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Posted by richhotrain on Sunday, April 18, 2021 5:07 AM

hon30critter
 
Sign of a dedicated model railroader; is “that” going to have a use on the layout? Cheers, the Bear. 

Ya, as long as the bees don't move into the pipe loads!

Dave 

Would that be a problem, Dave?  I didn't know that you model bees on your layout. Smile, Wink & Grin

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Sunday, April 18, 2021 9:21 AM

Those look like they could be painted to represent good concrete piping. They have the mass to look correct.

I have been saving all sorts of odd gubbins from working on my house to use on the layout. The plastic covers that come with DeWalt wood chisels looks exactly like concrete storm culverts.

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Sunday, April 18, 2021 11:15 AM

I wanted to make hexagonal cobblestones in HO scale.  Nobody makes such molds that I could find, so I bought a piece of artificial plastic honeycomb and made a latex mold with it.  It worked fine for hydrocal cobblestones.

I thought the experiment was kind of neat, so I bought a set of WS beekeepers and now I do model HO scale bees.  It makes a nice little scene in a few square inches that can't really be used for anything else.

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Posted by tatans on Sunday, April 18, 2021 1:06 PM

Plastic straws work great, the thin walls are probably an exact size in scale for HO.

mobilman44

I used plastic straws, glued together and then painted grey, followed by a slight rust colored wash.  I dipped the ends in flat black, which disquised the thin walls of the straws.  The end result worked quite well IMO..........

 

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Posted by doctorwayne on Sunday, April 18, 2021 1:23 PM

I used the barrels of Bic pens to create pipe loads...

...and the ink tubes for small diameter pipe...

I have several loads of each type, sized and labelled to fit particular cars.

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Posted by jjdamnit on Sunday, April 18, 2021 2:31 PM

Hello All,

The parent company of the Buckskin & Platte Railroad (B.S.&P. R.R.) is the Consolidated Materials Group (C.M.G.).

In the charter for The C.M.G., it specifies that "found materials shall be used whenever possible or practical."

Various tube shapes; from straws to frame spacers used when transporting bicycles, have been harvested to be used as Ho scale pipe loads.

All for free.

Thank you for sharing your find, but at that price, it is cost-prohibitive compared to other harvested materials.

Hope this helps.

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Posted by hon30critter on Sunday, April 18, 2021 8:00 PM

jjdamnit
Thank you for sharing your find, but at that price, it is cost-prohibitive compared to other harvested materials.

I happen to have a surplus of the bee tubes. We bought a solitary bee house to put in the garden and the refill pack has more tubes than we need for the next few years. I'm not sure if that makes them free or not.

Personally, I like the 'heft' that they present in HO scale, and I like the spiral pattern. The walls may be too thick for HO scale, but IMO this is a situation where not being exactly to scale looks better than a plastic drinking straw would.

Just out of curiousity, I looked up paper drinking straws on Amazon. There are several different options that would be suitable for pipe loads. There are different sizes, both length and diameter. and they also come in black, blue and silver. The silver is a bit bright to mimic steel tubing but it could easily be toned down. Prices are all over the place but there were some that were in the $8.00 Cdn. /125 range.

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Posted by Colorado Ray on Sunday, April 18, 2021 8:28 PM

The spiral pattern looks just like Naylor steel pipe that is used in a lot of mining applications.

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Posted by gmpullman on Monday, April 19, 2021 5:26 AM

I'd like to find a method of applying a manufacturer's mark on the new pipe. For example:

http://www.protoloads.com/shop/ho-scale-ductile-iron-pipe-using-thin-wall-aluminum-tubing-with-prototype-flared-end-8/

I recall seeing loads going through my area with the Bethlehem Steel emblem on the pipe. I think that adds a bit of nice detail.

Perhaps a rubber stamp kit could be used or, if you could find them, dry transfers.

http://www.protoloads.com/shop/walther-proto-ho-scale-89-flat-with-line-pipe/

Thanks for sharing your idea, Dave Yes

Cheers, Ed

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Posted by jjdamnit on Monday, April 19, 2021 1:21 PM

Hello All,

gmpullman
I'd like to find a method of applying a manufacturer's mark on the new pipe. For example...(link omitted for brevity).
I recall seeing loads going through my area with the Bethlehem Steel emblem on the pipe. I think that adds a bit of nice detail.

The NMRA monthly print magazine has a column called "Love Those Loads" that is dedicated to modeling open, and oversized loads. Some based on actual loads and rolling stock.

In many of the prototypical photos, there are placards from the manufacturers, similar to what you are describing.

These could be easily modeled just like other signs used on model railroads with a printer and styrene.

Hope this helps.

 

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Posted by gmpullman on Monday, April 19, 2021 3:08 PM

jjdamnit
The NMRA monthly print magazine has a column called "Love Those Loads" —   

Thank you, I will look into that.

I've made signs to accompany special loads, which were somewhat common "back in the day" when shippers knew folks would be watching trains.

 IMG_9723_fix_web by Edmund, on Flickr

I've seen photos of promotional signs on special shipments, say steel for the Golden Gate Bridge and the like.

If not overdone it makes for an interesting visual on the layout.

 MESTA_forge2 by Edmund, on Flickr

Thank you, Ed

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Posted by zstripe on Tuesday, April 20, 2021 11:33 AM

MisterBeasley
MisterBeasley wrote the following post 2 days ago: I wanted to make hexagonal cobblestones in HO scale.  Nobody makes such molds that I could find,

It's quite possible Mr. B You were just looking in the wrong country. A site You and others may find interesting. I personnally have used them quite a number of times before without any problem's whatsoever:

https://www.greenstuffworld.com/en/textured-rolling-pins/132-Rolling-Pin-Hobby-Roller-Hexagons-Infinity-Bases.html

Take Care! Big Smile

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Tuesday, April 20, 2021 9:21 PM

gmpullman
I'd like to find a method of applying a manufacturer's mark on the new pipe. I recall seeing loads going through my area with the Bethlehem Steel emblem on the pipe. I think that adds a bit of nice detail.

Ed: I cannot find a picture, but I have used data and markings from 1/48 scale military models for pipes and beams on flatcars. They look very good.

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Posted by gmpullman on Wednesday, April 21, 2021 7:08 AM

Thanks, Kevin. I have some sheets of data and a few other miscelaneous markings I'll take a look at.

I bought a rubber stamp kit from Amazon with individual letters. Might give a go with that when it arrives.

The U.S.S. United States Steel emblem is pretty simple and could be done with dry transfers. There are Bethlehem decals out there, too.

Cheers, Ed

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Wednesday, April 21, 2021 7:16 AM

Well now Imgor is acting up, so I cannot post any reference pictures.

The data decals I use look similar to what is on the Proto-Load 89 foot flatcar.

There are literally thousands of 1/48 and 1/72 miltary aircraft decal sets available, and these can be harvested for all kinds of useful teeny bits.

I search eBay occassionally for big lots made up of partial decal sheets. These can be goldmines for $20.00 or less.

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Posted by kasskaboose on Thursday, April 22, 2021 6:47 AM

Those pipes are way cool!  Are the pipes only used for beekeeping?  

Swapping out different types of loads is great for variety in operations.

 

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Posted by hon30critter on Thursday, April 22, 2021 9:20 AM

kasskaboose
Those pipes are way cool!  Are the pipes only used for beekeeping?  

Hi kasskaboose,

That is their intended use. We shall see whether or not we can attract any bees this summer.

I mentioned using paper straws as well. Most of them have a similar spiral pattern although the spiral joints may be less obvious on the thinner walled straws. One thing the straws offer is the opportunity to model longer pipes in various sizes. You can also get paper straws covered in silver foil. They are a bit on the shiney side but they could easily be toned down with Dullcote to model galvanized steel pipes.

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