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[quote user="hon30critter"] Hi Ulrich, Yes, the OP's question has brought out some fairly strong opinions on DCC and sound with regard to costs. However, I have to disagree with your implication that the discussion is not worthwhile. I think the OP asked a very straight forward question "would costs go down if...." and I think that it is an interesting question. As I stated, I am totally opposed to the concept, but the OP's question is no different than if he was asking "would costs go down if all manufacturers used the same motor...". (OK, that is probably a lame example). What the OP has hopefully learned is that his question cannot be answered simply. There are too many different opinions and desires. That's OK. Hopefully the OP has a better understanding of the implications of all manufacturers offering sound only locomotives if that were to actually happen. My point is that we should not try to stifle discussion on the forums, especially when it is a newer member asking the question. The forums are here precisely to allow us to discuss model railroad topics and we have all said that more participation in both the forums and the hobby is a good thing. So what if the manufacturers aren't listening to every post? I am (almost). You are likely reading most threads too, and we would both be disappointed if Kalmbach told us to keep our opinions to ourselves. No offense Ulrich! It's always good to hear your opinions. Regards, Dave <div style="clear:both;"> </div> [/quote]   Let me start by thanking you for taking the time to read my OP and for recognizing the intent of the question. This is a question of economics, not a question about whether or not you think it's a good idea. That's going to start a firestorm of opinions. That may or may not be a worthwhile topic, but if someone wants to do that, it could be best handled in a seperate post. The comparison to a cable harness in a car wasn't meant to be taken literally. The point I was trying to make is that there are always economic and marketing factors that will lead manufacturers to standarize their product lines, or not. There have been a number of people who've responded with comments about being forced to pay for something they don't want. If the Atlas units I mentioned are an indication that manufacturers are moving in that direction and you object, then I respectfully suggest that you direct your comments to them. Perhaps if they hear from enough of you who don't want to have to choose between no decoder and sound, they'll listen.
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