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Which Company Manufactured These HO Freight Cars?

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Posted by PC101 on Sunday, January 3, 2021 9:45 PM

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Now for that Double Door NYC #77141 car.

 

Do a web search for "NYC 77141" and you get photos of a double door MDC Roundhouse car.

 

Thanks Rob.

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Posted by BN7150 on Sunday, January 3, 2021 10:06 PM

The transition of the MDC AAR 40' boxcars that I imagine is as follows.

1950- all die-cast (not assembled)

1963- die-cast plastic hybrid

1978- all plastic (some are left and right mistakes like Athearn)

2001- integration of sliding doors onto the body

2003- floor changed (diverted from the one of modern boxcar)

2005- added brake 3-piece set as separate parts and integrated stirrups to the body (after Athearn merger)

Of these, the period during which the stirrups were integrally molded with the floorboard was from 1978 to 2004. Please give me the advice of detailed modelers.

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Posted by Shock Control on Sunday, January 3, 2021 10:06 PM

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 After MDC/Roundhouse was bought by Horizon and made part of Athearn they used this tooling for lots of Athearn branded "Ready to Roll" items since this tooling was newer and better than the old Blue Box tooling for similar cars. 

They are likely still using it, but I have not bought any recent releases to know for sure.

So you can find these cars as first offered in kit form in the late 80's, as RTR from MDC, or RTR from Athearn.

I have a bunch of them, in all the versions and lots of different roadnames.

So you got these without boxes? 

Sheldon

Thanks for the clarification!

Yes, I got both cars individually from train shows over the years.  They had no boxes, and they were probably only 4 or 5 bucks a throw. 

I had been out of the hobby for a few decades.  As a kid, I had Athearn, Varney and Mantua/Tyco, so I was unaware of this type of car.

Thanks all for your assistance!

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Posted by PC101 on Sunday, January 3, 2021 10:07 PM

dti406

The only problem is the car with the number 24303 is an X29 which had the "Don't Stand Me Still" logo but the Roundhouse car is not a X29 which were only 9' IH and the Roundhouse car is a 10'6" Inside Height car which makes it either a 1937 Mod AAR or 1944 AAR Car, if I could see the ends I could tell, but without seeing the ends I can't tell.

Rick Jesionowski

 

How is this for the end view?

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Posted by BN7150 on Sunday, January 3, 2021 10:17 PM

This is the model I assembled. I changed the sliding doors to 8-ft, but only for the atmosphere.

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Posted by dti406 on Sunday, January 3, 2021 10:35 PM

No I meanth the end view of the actual car, cars came with many different ends and they constantly evolved and one can tell the car's era by the differences in the car ends.

 

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Posted by PC101 on Sunday, January 3, 2021 10:55 PM

Thanks BN7150, some old cars I had in a box that I never looked into or really gave it a thought who made them. I now know, reading your post they are of 1963 vintage MDC. The picture of the 40' Green body Die-Cast Plastic Hybrid with the cast metal frame gave it away. I now see the number/letters on the bottom of your car (below the Japan sticker) but upside down and my cars match #FB101A. All of my cars like that have sprung cast metal trucks with plastic wheels and steel axles and steps/stirrups molded on the bodys and sliding doors. It's fun to get the old stuff out and run em around.

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Posted by PC101 on Sunday, January 3, 2021 11:04 PM

dti406

No I meanth the end view of the actual car, cars came with many different ends and they constantly evolved and one can tell the car's era by the differences in the car ends.

 

Rick Jesionowski

 

Opps sorry, I don't have the real car handy at this moment.Smile

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Posted by Shock Control on Monday, January 4, 2021 9:57 AM

BN7150
The transition of the MDC AAR 40' boxcars that I imagine is as follows.

Thank you for all this detail!  I will take a closer look at the underframes of the cars I have to determine the era.  I can certainly rule out the first two you posted.

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Monday, January 4, 2021 10:33 AM

Shock Control
Thank you for all this detail!

I replied to your PM.

-Kevin

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Posted by BN7150 on Tuesday, January 5, 2021 9:10 AM

When I am summarizing the transition of MDC 40-ft cars, I found one with the underfloor equipment arrangement reversed, like Athearn's ones. Result of investigation, two of 11 1978-2000 types cars owned were so. The following photo shows the commemorative models whose release year is clear, and the one of two 1984 cars and 1996 car are reversed. Of course, there is no guarantee that the combination of body shell and floorboard remains original. Does anyone know anything?

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