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[quote user="LEOFUTURE"]Some of my cars are just shells, do you know how I can get the flat piece to attach the trucks? thanks! [/quote] Central Valley Model Works sells 40ft steel underframe (the name of the piece that attaches the shell to the trucks).  These only work with 40ft freight cars.   <a href="http://www.shop.cvmw.com/40ftSteelUnderFrameKit-3-1000.htm">http://www.shop.cvmw.com/40ftSteelUnderFrameKit-3-1000.htm</a> You might consider saving the shells of the freight cars to practice weathering on instead of trying to make a working car.  Old box cars can be used as storage sheds, offices, etc. As far as passenger cars go.  You dont need the coupler to attach to the trucks.  Just mount it to the frame centerline at the end of the car.  I have had success doing this with old Athearn cars that came with truck mounted couplers.  I just snipped off the X2F horn hook coupler box with a pair of sprue cutters.  I then used a Kadee coupler box with a regular #5 coupler to set the correct distance back from the car end and drilled a pilot hole.  I then attached the coupler with a 1/8" 2-56 screw. I do not reccommend using the brute force sheet metal screw method.  Its a one shot deal and if you mess it up, the car will be even more work to get working again.
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