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Hydrocal substitutes?

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Hydrocal substitutes?
Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, January 12, 2005 1:50 PM
I am having difficulty finding Hydrocal in bulk (ie. 50 lb bags or anything larger that the Woodland Scenics Quart). Is there an acceptable substitute that I may find at my local hardware store ( Lowes or Home Depot)? Does it go by other names?

Thanks for any help.
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Posted by cwclark on Wednesday, January 12, 2005 3:04 PM
I use plain old plaster of paris in the 50 # bags...i like it better than hydrocal..it's cheaper, and easier to work with because it takes longer to set up than hydrocal so you can get into it a bit longer with a hobby knife to cut those extra ravines and mountain features than you can with hydrocal ...some think it's not as strong as hydrocal but i beg to differ...it gets hard enough for my layout purposes...the only drawback is that it's heavier than hydrocal but if your benchwork is sturdy , the weight is not an issue...a little hint also...add a teaspoon of vinegar to the mix before your pour and it will take longer to set up for that extra work time with the hobby knife..you can get plaster of paris in 50 # bags at Lowe's or Home depot.... Chuck[:D]

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Posted by bjdukert on Wednesday, January 12, 2005 6:46 PM
Jeff Try plaster.com and see what you think.

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Posted by simon1966 on Wednesday, January 12, 2005 6:55 PM
I use plaster for detailed rock formations and a lightweight building product called "Gypsolite" for my coverage over foam carved mountains etc. http://www.usmix.com/Techsheets/Distributor/gypsolite/ Home Depot and Lowes carry it. I got the suggestion from the Dave Frary DVD series on layout construction and I have been pleased with the results

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Posted by hminky on Wednesday, January 12, 2005 8:13 PM
I found these at Home Depot and Lowes. They are floor levelers





They come in sizes from a pint to 25 pounds. They are hydrocal or an equivalent.

Hope that helps[:D]
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Posted by nfmisso on Wednesday, January 12, 2005 9:19 PM
I like Durham's Water Putty.
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Posted by BR60103 on Wednesday, January 12, 2005 9:49 PM
Hydrocal has the property of not shrinking as it sets. That's important if you're making molds.
It also does not take paint or stain well.
See what your local art school uses to make alabaster; that's what Hydrocal is.

--David

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, January 12, 2005 9:59 PM
Call your local dental supply company...They carry a variety of gypsum products. I have used Labstone Buff in the past as well as a white lab plaster. Die stones are the hardest and their isnt much shrinkage. Most come in 25# and some in 50#

Good Luck,

Bob
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Posted by PennsyHoosier on Wednesday, January 12, 2005 10:01 PM
David,

Hate to ask a dumb question, but what is alabaster?

Thanks!
Lawrence, The Pennsy Hoosier
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Posted by BR60103 on Thursday, January 13, 2005 10:31 PM
Alabaster: a compact fine-textured usu. white and translucent gypsum often carved into vases or ornaments.
(thanks to Webster.)

--David

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