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CMR Products
Posted by dieselsmoke on Saturday, May 30, 2020 6:01 AM

I was considering ordering a Geep cab from CMR and was wondering if anyone has had any experience with them. Are their products good? Are they good? Thanks.

Jim

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Posted by rws1225 on Saturday, May 30, 2020 6:51 AM

I just recieved a RS-3 low nose and cab from CMR.  Looks pretty good, still cleaning flash.  Reasonably fast service on my order.

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Posted by BigDaddy on Saturday, May 30, 2020 6:57 AM

No opinion, just pointing out CMR Products is a different company than CMR Custom Model Railroads, makers of the turntable and mid-Atlantic city buildings.
Both come to Timonium.

Henry

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Posted by RR_Mel on Saturday, May 30, 2020 8:07 AM

Thanks Henry!


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Posted by ricktrains4824 on Saturday, May 30, 2020 8:09 AM

I have gotten decals and detail parts from them, very well done on both with very fast and accurate shipping.

I would not hesitate to order from these guys at all.

Just the opinion of a happy customer.

Ricky W.

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Posted by dieselsmoke on Saturday, May 30, 2020 8:42 AM

Thanks. I'll order some parts.

Jim

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Posted by Jimmy_Braum on Saturday, May 30, 2020 9:36 AM

My review of CMR: good

Well, HO is my primary scale  and always will be. But, I do N scale as well, in T-Trak. CMR sells custom made modules  (singles, doubles, triples, quads, tunnels,etc) the kits go together so well and easy.  hardware is optionally provided (customer can decline the Feet. The kits are laser cut, so all that needs done is gluing the tabs together and clamping. 

I also recently purchased a shell that no one produces- a H-20-44 for the PWV. Well its a resin cast, so it does need flash cleaned off. But, itz a nice quality shell. 

 

Id order from them again.  

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Posted by dti406 on Saturday, May 30, 2020 10:05 AM

I don't use anything from CMR as they promote copywright infringement and that the parts are not user friendly anyway.

https://atlasrescueforum.proboards.com/thread/6827/trio-chopped-gp9s-factory-parts

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Posted by ricktrains4824 on Saturday, May 30, 2020 10:52 AM

Depends on who makes it.

All the ones I have bought, are made by either CMR themselves, or the decals maker they use, which no one else has made anywhere.

As far as the BDO stuff, none of it was of use for me anyways. 
Last I checked however, no manufacturer had said anything on copyright infringement against him, unless I missed something. (If they have, the courts would halt all his sales.)

Avoiding a hobby shop because they carry one line that someone has accused of something yet to be proven seems a bit odd.

As I said, everything I have gotten from them is well done, and all of those things are not available from anyone else anywhere else in any material, so no possible copyright infringement on them.

My 2 Cents

Ricky W.

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Posted by rrebell on Saturday, May 30, 2020 11:59 AM

There are many companys who knock off stuff but only the  complete kit ones get to go to court and some manufactures don't care if they no longer make a part. Last, patents only have a 15 year run, providing they have a patent. I doubt Atlas patented the shell.

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Posted by dti406 on Saturday, May 30, 2020 12:16 PM

Patent does not apply but it is automatically copyrighted and that lasts for 70 years after the death of the owner.

Rick Jesionowski 

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Posted by ricktrains4824 on Saturday, May 30, 2020 12:27 PM

I get the copyright rule.

But, if HO Scale models followed the same way as others, then Atlas could not make a GP38 the same dimensions as Bachmann's. Or Athearn's. Or Proto2000's. 
While they are all similar models, all the same dimensions, similar drives, each is a little different than the others.

Are we sure they aren't copied? Just minor changes prior to the new mass-produced version under a different name?
Seems like until a manufacturer says it's a copy and can prove it, we are using a very broad brush here, but only on certain ones, while not using that same broad brush on others.

So which of the above GP38's is the knock off copy? And of who's?

NOTICE: I am in no way condoning any copyright infringing in any way shape or form. But, I am saying before we use a wide brush, make sure we have the right brush.

Ricky W.

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Posted by rrinker on Saturday, May 30, 2020 2:32 PM

 At least one of the BDO shells was made from a mold taken from a Rapido loco - Jason Shron posted about this back when it happened. It was obvious because the BDO item contained specifics that ONLY the Rapido model had, despite the same loco being available from others.

 But who knows what to believe any more? 

CMR though is a shop, not much of a maker. Most of the shells they sell are made by others, they just sell them. The late Bob Hartle started it (he was on here as CMR Products) and is now run by his sons. They are not affiliated with BDO.

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Posted by rrebell on Saturday, May 30, 2020 2:46 PM

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Posted by maxman on Saturday, May 30, 2020 2:53 PM

rrebell

 

 
dti406

Patent does not apply but it is automatically copyrighted and that lasts for 70 years after the death of the owner.

Rick Jesionowski 

 

Copyright and patent are two different things. an object has a patent. 

I hope we’re not going down the copyright/patent road again.   Every time that happens the result is an irate moderator and a deleted thread.

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Posted by rrebell on Saturday, May 30, 2020 3:00 PM

One last thing of note, in order to sue a copywright must be registered.

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Posted by dieselsmoke on Saturday, May 30, 2020 3:26 PM

Thanks Rick dti406, I didn't know about Lines West.

Jim

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Posted by ctyclsscs on Saturday, May 30, 2020 8:04 PM

"One last thing of note, in order to sue a copywright must be registered."

Not true. You can still take legal action but you don't have as much protection as when a copyright is registered. 

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Posted by mbinsewi on Saturday, May 30, 2020 9:27 PM

I agree with Randy's post.  I've bought detail parts from Bob's son's, no problem.

If you have an issue with the conflict about BDO, than don't buy them.

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Posted by wp8thsub on Saturday, May 30, 2020 9:44 PM

dieselsmoke
I was considering ordering a Geep cab from CMR and was wondering if anyone has had any experience with them.

 The resin shells and related parts vary in quality, but I consider them pretty much trash.  Many of the parts do not fit well, and don't expect something like a cab to be a drop-in replacement of the same dimensions as what it should be for the intended model.  Don't waste your money.

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Posted by tloc52 on Monday, June 1, 2020 5:50 PM

Agree with Rob, was a real waste of money

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Posted by dieselsmoke on Monday, June 1, 2020 6:16 PM

Thanks everyone for your input. I'll tread carefully.

Jim

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