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Opportunity to buy 4-6-0, should I go for it? (Updated)

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Posted by mbinsewi on Thursday, March 26, 2020 11:31 AM

OK, so good luck.  Hopefully you can figure it out, and it don't turn into "I got ripped off!" thread.  Smile, Wink & Grin

Let us know if it is a Spectrum.

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Posted by Wolf359 on Thursday, March 26, 2020 12:06 PM

I figured I'm bored out of my mind and they're hard to find in any condition for anything under $100+, so I decided to roll the dice and go for it. I've also aquired better and new tools since the last time I had to flush out an electrical gremlin, so hopefully all will go smoothly. I intend to put a DC dummy plug in anyway, so I'm not really concerned if the DCC decoder works or not, as I run plain old DC analog. Also, upon further reasearch and input, I am now quite sure that it's a Spectrum. With a few alterations, it should be a fairly good match for a Colorado Midland class 102 4-6-0. Here's a link to a photo of CM engine 33: https://digital.denverlibrary.org/digital/collection/p15330coll22/id/51085/rec/1

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Posted by BRAKIE on Thursday, March 26, 2020 2:07 PM

Guys, I once bought a Atlas Classic C&O RS-1 that did not run.. I found the problem was a wire to the wheel pickup came unsoldered. A easy fix and it ran like new.  I still have it. Oh the price?  As is, no return, $40.00 free shipping.

 

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Posted by Trainman440 on Thursday, March 26, 2020 6:06 PM

Haha if you wanna flex, I bought a brand new Bachmann 2-8-0 that "didn't run" for $40, turns out the tender wheels(which picked up power) were flipped, so it shorted the engine. Just flipped the wheels and it ran perfectly. Sold it for $90. 

OP, if you have issues with the engine, feel free to PM me, I got quite a bit of experience working with these...I had 3 once a time ago. 

Good luck!

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Posted by Wolf359 on Friday, March 27, 2020 3:48 PM

Trainman440

OP, if you have issues with the engine, feel free to PM me, I got quite a bit of experience working with these...I had 3 once a time ago. 

Good luck!

Charles

 

Thank you Charles, for your kind offer of help should it become necessary. I will definitely keep that in mind if I need it. As long as I can get the PM feature to work that is.Smile, Wink & Grin

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Posted by Wolf359 on Friday, March 27, 2020 4:05 PM

BRAKIE

Guys, I once bought a Atlas Classic C&O RS-1 that did not run.. I found the problem was a wire to the wheel pickup came unsoldered. A easy fix and it ran like new.  I still have it. Oh the price?  As is, no return, $40.00 free shipping.

 

 

That sort of thing is something else that made me go for this loco. You can sometimes get very good deals on fixer-uppers and locos that supposedly don't run. I bought a 4-4-2 made by GHC that had a "for parts or restore" tag on it for $20.00 at a local hobby shop. After a full overhaul and the replacement of a wire to the tender, it was up and running and now runs like a champ. It weighs more than a pound, and pulls like an ox.

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Posted by Wolf359 on Tuesday, March 31, 2020 1:50 PM

Update: My Bachmann 4-6-0 arrived safely yesterday. It was well packed and arrived in excellent condition with no broken or missing parts as far as I can tell.Big Smile I have also confirmed that it is indeed a Spectrum model after finding the logo on the underside of the tender.Yeah I haven't done anything with it yet, as I need to print the diagrams. I also want to finish another in-progress project before I dive into this one. But, I'll post an update when I get to it.

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Posted by mbinsewi on Tuesday, March 31, 2020 2:26 PM

Yes

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Posted by richg1998 on Tuesday, March 31, 2020 2:42 PM

Do not remember if you said, large driver or small driver version? I have both.

Been some years.

The small driver has small tender DCC non sound and large driver, larger tender with factory onboard sound.

Rich

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Posted by Wolf359 on Tuesday, March 31, 2020 2:45 PM

It's the version with the small, 52" drivers.

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Posted by richg1998 on Tuesday, March 31, 2020 3:48 PM

Mine came with the small tender. I stripped the electronics and put in a Tsunami Micro with a 1k resistor for the LED headlight. A speaker firing up through small holes drilled in the coal load.

Thin white glue painted on the coal load with coal dust painted on keeping the holes clear.

Been some years. The idea came from a fellow and his site is gone.

Rich

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Posted by Wolf359 on Wednesday, April 1, 2020 12:35 PM

Big SmileGood news everyone! I finished my project sooner than I thought I would, (I was so bored that I spent the last three days cleaning the wheels of every operable piece of rolling stock I own), so decided to just test the loco without doing anything to it first, and it ran on the first try! It could use a little oil I think, but it still runs pretty smooth. 

Trainman440

 

Usually, these engines have the following issue, going from most common, to least common:

1. Seller forgot decoder number(You wouldn't believe how many times a decoder reset "fixes" an engine!)

 

That was a very good guess Charles. I run DC only, so that must have been the reason the seller couldn't get it to run in DCC mode. Overall, it's looking like this was a very good buy. Thank you everyone, for your valuable opinions and input.

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Posted by Trainman440 on Wednesday, April 1, 2020 1:21 PM

Great news, enjoy!

Charles

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Posted by Wolf359 on Wednesday, April 1, 2020 1:46 PM

Trainman440

Great news, enjoy!

Charles

 

Thank you! I definitely will!Big Smile

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