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Rapido and trueline trains caboose
Posted by Rambo2 on Monday, September 16, 2019 5:53 PM

Are they the same models?Look the same no?

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Posted by BigDaddy on Monday, September 16, 2019 6:25 PM

They are different companies so I very much doubt it, specifically which caboose do you mean.

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Posted by BATMAN on Monday, September 16, 2019 7:10 PM

I have three Trueline cabooses and no Rapido ones. I would bet real money that the Rapido ones are more detailed and nicer.

Edit; I bet if you Google Image search the two you are interested in, you could bring them up side by side to compare the two. What two are you looking at, I'll have a look myself.

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Posted by SPSOT fan on Tuesday, September 17, 2019 7:46 AM

It’s hard to say without pictures of the specific models and/or the more specifics on which run/model the OP is talking about but a quick google search of each manufacturer and the word caboose reveals the OP is likely talking about Canadian prototype wide vision cabooses (cabeese!).

I suspect based of the search results I found that the are models of the same prototype but different models, as in they use different molds and such. I suspect the Rapido caboose will be very accurate and detail based of Rapids reputation as a company. I know little about trueline trains.

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Posted by BigDaddy on Tuesday, September 17, 2019 10:17 AM

Oddly the two companies are 22 km apart

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Posted by doctorwayne on Tuesday, September 17, 2019 11:02 AM

Here are some photos of Rapido cabooses, and some of True Line Trains cabooses.

I have a few of the True Line wooden cabooses, but the Rapido ones are too modern for my layout's era.

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Posted by BATMAN on Tuesday, September 17, 2019 1:44 PM

Here are two side by side copied and paste off of Waynes links.

Rapido on top.

Image result for Rapido caboose models - photos

Image result for True Line trains - caboose models - photos

 

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Posted by Rambo2 on Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:41 PM
Same molds?
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Posted by Rambo2 on Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:42 PM
Both very nice
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Posted by Rambo2 on Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:42 PM
I also have both
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Posted by BATMAN on Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:45 PM

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Same molds?
 

The Rapido one has rivets on the side, the TL does not so that speaks volumes. If you really look closely you can see lots of differences. 

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Posted by cv_acr on Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:46 PM

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Same molds?

 

No...

 

What has failed to be pointed out is that the Rapido van on top is N scale, the True Line Trains van on the bottom is HO scale....

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Posted by cv_acr on Tuesday, September 17, 2019 3:51 PM

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The Rapido one has rivets on the side, the TL does not so that speaks volumes. If you really look closely you can see lots of differences. 

That's not true. The photo doesn't show it very well, but the TLT version is also riveted.

Actually the TLT caboose has a long complicated history; it was actually tooled by Rapido as a commission job for a particular dealer (Canadian Model Trains/Tom Tomblin) who suddenly vanished into the night one day... Somehow TLT managed to acquire CMT's assets when no one else could recover anything from them and ultimately brought the project to market.

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Posted by BigDaddy on Tuesday, September 17, 2019 4:17 PM

cv_acr
Actually the TLT caboose has a long complicated history; it was actually tooled by Rapido as a commission job for a particular dealer (Canadian Model Trains/Tom Tomblin) who suddenly vanished into the night one day... Somehow TLT managed to acquire CMT's assets when no one else could recover anything from them and ultimately brought the project to market.

I was not in the hobby then, but if you google Update on Canadian Model Trains, you can find things on other forums, including a letter from Jason @ Rapido.

In 2012 he shared office and warehouse space with True Line, but were independent companies.  Rapido was a supplier to CMT.  According to contemporary posts, True Line was going to try to honor pre-existing orders.  They purchased the stock (which presumably CMT customers placed deposits) but not the company.

It's not clear how it all worked out by reading the forums or if Rapido is supplying True Line.  If True Line shipped the stock to the customers at a loss, that is a heck of a thing to do for the customer.

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Posted by BATMAN on Tuesday, September 17, 2019 5:06 PM

I could not find a good pic of the TLT HO version, however, the ones I found do look very much like the Rapido one so who knows? 

Henry, I remember that story of TLT when it broke. 

The three TLT cabooses I have are very nice and I am glad I bought them. It would be nice to have a Rapido one and do a comparison.

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Posted by cv_acr on Wednesday, September 18, 2019 9:15 AM

BATMAN

I could not find a good pic of the TLT HO version, however, the ones I found do look very much like the Rapido one so who knows? 

That's probably because as noted Rapido actually designed and tooled them both.

But as also noted, the Rapido CN caboose illustrated above is N scale and the True Line is HO scale, so I'm not sure what sort of side-by-side comparison would be valid. Rapido never released the CN caboose in HO scale themselves since it was a commisioned job by a third party.

Rapido did do another caboose in HO scale, which was a Canadian Pacific caboose so a rather different protoype and design.

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Posted by BATMAN on Wednesday, September 18, 2019 12:12 PM

Thanks, Chris, for re-educating me(us) It is starting to all come back to me now. I remember reading about the whole thing way back when.

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Posted by maxman on Wednesday, September 18, 2019 3:43 PM

BigDaddy
if you google Update on Canadian Model Trains, you can find things on other forums, including a letter from Jason @ Rapido.

Any way you can copy/paste Jason's reply here?  I did find the forum I believe you are thinking about, but Jason's reply seems to be on the second page, and one needs to belong to that forum to view archived items.

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Posted by BigDaddy on Wednesday, September 18, 2019 6:01 PM

maxman
Any way you can copy/paste Jason's reply here?

Ummm...no.  I saw what you did in that forum and found more on some forum named T****board.

I got started on forums in BMW Airhead motorcycles.  Nationally known gurus hated being quoted on other forums on which they did not participate nor could defend their opinions.  They went so far as to put copyright symbols in their posts.

We have a frequent poster in this forum, who was previously placed on moderation for cross posting from other forums.  This is a case in which I agree with management.

Jason is a member here and he can choose to comment or not.  I'm not going to put him on the spot here. 

I am curious as to how it all turned out.  I got the impression that there was a lot less product than there were people with deposits.

I sent you a pm so there are no hard feelings

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Posted by maxman on Wednesday, September 18, 2019 11:21 PM

BigDaddy
I sent you a pm so there are no hard feelings

None at all.  Got the PM in the P.M. and pm'd back in the A.M.

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