Dave - thank you for sharing these pictures of a wonderful streetcar on an equally wonderful trolley layout! Reminds me of the late 1960s/early 1970s, when MR featured a traction layout now and then, not to forget the Motorman Mike column.
Happy times!
Ulrich (aka The Tin Man)
"You´re never too old for a happy childhood!"
Beautifull work, both on the layout and that car. That shell would do nicely for a TTC 4000 series air electricas well. I'm blessed to be able to run the real thing. Our museum collection has TTC 4000 in functional service along with 2 of the later all electric 4600's( 4600,4611&4618 )We also have two of the cleveland expats with the monitor roof which the TTC turned into their W30-31 grinding set.
Rob
The mossing photo has ben added, and below is his Detroit Dept. of Streeet Railways Peter Witt:
Years ago when I was a kid, I never really got into traction layouts. Of course, being born in the 70s, I never got to see them in real life. Back in 2018, after remembering the episode of Mister Rogers Neighborhood where he visited a trolley museum, I looked up the museum, which is now the Pennsylvania Trolley Museum south of Pittsburgh. I went there, and seeing those beautifully restored cars in action, I can definitely understand the appeal of modeling them now. In fact, I enjoyed visiting the museum so much that I've made it an annual trip, and at one point, I even contemplated the possibility of starting my HO scale layout over and going with a traction layout.
Kevin
http://chatanuga.org/RailPage.html
http://chatanuga.org/WLMR.html
From Richard Allman:
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It is lovely to see some streetcars (trams in the UK). At one time I was a volunteer in a local tram preservation society. (Age has stopped me volunteering so much.)
My son now works at Beamish Museum, County Durham. He is seen here 'at work'.
Christmas 2018
April 2020
David
To the world you are someone. To someone you are the world
I cannot afford the luxury of a negative thought
From Richard Allman, and the Word document did not have spaces between lines, apologies.
I love the pictures, but I am having a hard time with the text.
-Kevin
Living the dream.
SeeYou190I love the pictures, but I am having a hard time with the text.
Yeah! Like too much of it. I grew up in Chicago in the 40's riding Brill street cars...they were noisey as hell compared to the later Green Hornets, as they were called.
Take Care!
Frank
Regarding the autobiographical part of the posting: In the edit mode, the unfortunats hoge spacing between lines of text dissapears, and this suggests thst one has solved the problem. Which did not happen. I think Richard's story is interesting enough for the moderator to help make the posting easier to read.
I'll take a shot because I can't read either version as is. The author was fond of run on sentences as well.
Atlantic City Transportation Company Brilliner 201 has entered operation on Main Line Transit.
The prototype was the first of a 25-car fleet acquired by the Atlantic City and Shore Railroad in 1940. It was originally numbered 6891, then 6901. The numbering system related to the company’s ownership by the Pennsylvania-Reading Seashore Lines and in turn, the latter’s ownership by the Pennsylvania Railroad; the cars were numbered as part of the Pennsy passenger car roster.
The Brilliner was Brill’s attempt to offer a competitive alternative to the PCC car. Other than the 25 Atlantic City cars, only 5 other single-end Brilliners would be built: 3 for Philadelphia, and one each for Baltimore and Cincinnati.
They were built as demos for those systems but all three opted instead for major purchases of PCC cars. The failure to obtain a large order from Philadelphia sent a message to Brill, and after delivering 10 double-ended versions to Philadelphia Suburban Transportation Company in 1941, Brill abandoned the streetcar business and became a major manufacturer of buses and trackless trolleys in its final years in business.
Car 6901 originally had a complex (and in my view, ugly!) two-tone green, gold, silver striped and cream livery, however the distinguished designer Raymond Loewy, of GG-1 fame, designed the striking black and cream scheme that would be applied to all the cars.
The first version of the Loewy scheme was even more complex, with silver around the belt rail areas. The version that I chose was a later, slightly more simplified rendition which was all black and cream. The initial letterboard ATLANTIC CITY VENTNOR MARGATE LONGPORT was changed to the cursive “The Miss America Fleet”.
A group of Philadelphia-based financiers, including John B. Kelly, the bricklaying contractor and father of actress and later Princess, Grace Kelly, purchased the system in 1945 and renamed it Atlantic City Transportation Company.
Their plan was to get out of the trolley business, which they did in 1948, with the abandonment of the Shore Fast Line, the cutback of the Atlantic Avenue line from Longport to Douglas Avenue in Ventnor in 1954, and the final abandonment of the Douglas Avenue-Inlet remnant in December 1955, at which point, the right-of-way was promptly paved over and the fleet, including all the Brilliners, was scrapped.
As a little kid, I remember day trips to Atlantic City, and how the Brilliners rocked side to side while stopped for passengers and at traffic lights. During the summer, the service was robust and busy.
What happened in winter months was another story which contributed to ownership’s aspiration to be relieved of its car and infrastructure maintenance burden. The Brilliner was a noble if ultimately unsuccessful attempt by an important streetcar manufacturer to enter the new era of streamlined trolley manufacturing. That none of the 30 Brilliners was preserved is regrettable.
The Model
The shell was produced by Imperial Hobby Products and I acquired it from long-time friend of East Penn and me, Paul Mayer. Paul had tired of keeping it on a shelf with no plans to ever complete it and sold it to me, along with two sets of decals (in case I screwed up).
Paul manufactured the decal set, along with many others in his Shore Line Decal business. He was a huge contributor to our hobby. Interestingly, Paul painted an MTS Red Arrow double-ended Brilliner as a “might have been” Atlantic City car and it won an award at the 2012 Boston Trolley Meet.
Getting the car to navigate my layout was as challenging a modeling ordeal as I have ever encountered. I wanted to use the Bowser PCC drive, which is great performer, typically easy to install, and has the correct wheelbase and wheel diameter. I knew that the skirting over the wheels would be a problem but was unprepared for how much of a problem it would be.
The drive needed weight applied. The laws of physics would seem to dictate that weight placed anywhere at the front of the car would be transmitted downward onto the front bolster, but somewhere along the way those laws broke down. To make the car track properly, more weight is needed over the front wheels; how to do it was a huge pain.
Normally, placing a lead tab on top of the gear tower suffices, but the thickness of the shell was an impediment. I was far too timid to overly try to file and thin it. Placing a lead weight tab on the front of the gear tower also works, but once more that caused the weight to hit against the inside of the shell, impeding adequate turning.
Finally, I figured out that beveling the weight tab on the front of the gear tower, making it a trapezoidal shape with the narrow part to the front, provided enough turning in all directions to allow the trucks to turn and specifically to navigate both hard right and hard left turns through Orr switches with 6-1/8” radii.
Also, a lot of thinning was done on the inside of the shell where the wheels turn. Charlie Grant did a beautiful finishing job on his brass Atlantic City Brilliner and correctly states that accuracy of the trucks on an HO car with skirting over the wheels is not necessary.
He powered his with a Bachmann Spectrum Peter Witt drive and I have seen it-it is beautifully finished and runs flawlessly. I came close on several occasions to abandoning the attempt for the Bowser drive to work. I nearly followed Charlie, replacing it with the Bachmann, but my tenacity and familiarity with the Bowser drive compelled me to hang in.
The colors were Engine Black and Cat Whisker Yellow. We used acrylics. The wheels, track brakes and fender were painted Rail Brown.
For powering, we used the Larry Loyko-Bob Dietrich method-a vertical piece of thin brass tubing soldered through a piece of one-sided PC board, with a 0.015 brass wire from the metal side of the PC board that swipes another piece of one-sided piece of PC board cemented to the top of the motor and connected with a wire to the positive terminal on the motor.
The drive has 26-inch PCC wheels. The fender was fabricated from some HO fence material that was stainless steel and therefore a challenge to cut.
The decals were manufactured by Paul Mayer, our late friend from Chicago. I had two sets but had considerable angst about screwing up and not being able to replace them, plus the mere fact that the decals were old. Tony Tieuli suggested using Micro Scale Liquid Decal Film.
By the time Tony weighed in, Bob Dietrich had already sprayed the decal sheets with Klear Kote gloss, which adequately kept them from disintegrating. In the future with old decals, I will try Tony’s method since he is a master painter and should be listened to.
I had almost no loss of decals due to mishaps and with what I had, was able to complete the car, with enough left in case someone else ever undertakes this project and needs them.
In case I had a major calamity, I had contacted Bill Brillinger who makes decals, and he was ready to duplicate the extra set that I had ( I requested and got permission from Paul’s son, Jim Mayer), which fortunately was not necessary. I needed to take some license with the black on the roof and masking around the rear marker lights for which I will beg for forgiveness.
The number 201 was selected because Paul’s set had the full numbers for all six locations (two on each side and one at each end). I had no taste for cutting and aligning individual digits! Using 201 admittedly makes some discrepancy with the anti-climbers, which were shorter on 201, but I will live with that! My original plan was to use the LONGPORT MARGATE destination, but unfortunately, the decals for that were not great.
Admittedly, this car is odd on my layout, with Pennsylvania and New England themes, including hills and curves and long stretches of private right-of-way. The Atlantic Avenue route that was home turf for the Brilliners was almost arrow straight, flat and had only a little private right-of-way at the north end near the Inlet, and at the extreme southern end in Longport.
However, that is the beauty of traction modeling, where if it runs, you can run it wherever you choose. Tom Lederer’s modular layout is highly reminiscent of Atlantic City and hopefully at future Meets, it can run there.
The credits:
Henry
COB Potomac & Northern
Shenandoah Valley
Bob Dietrich is mentioned above, and a visit to his website is heartily recommended:
http://www.dietrichsfam.com/shj/.
Here are a few of the many, many, photos, and there is much more.
This is not prototype, but HO:
There are also an all-time Pittsburgh Rys. roster, prototype photos, a "cab ride," and much more. You wn't be dissapointed.
daveklepper, Thanks for the South Hills Junction link, lots of wonderful modeling.
regards, Peter
Brookly 6000-series Peter Witt and Brooklyn special Clark Equipment PCC 1000 vatious locations on Richard Allman's Lsyout:
6046 & 1000 at Keystone Junction
At New England Village
Arriving at New England Village
Heading for Keystone JuncArriving, New England Village siding
Arriving, N. E. Village siding
Leaving N. E. Village
Passing row houses near Keystone Junction
For photos of the actual prototypes of these two models, see the Classic Trains Forum, "All the Brooklyn PCC photos one could want." and "Peter Witts that are not PCCx."
From Richard
Hi Dave,
The photo is not showing, at least for me.
Dave
I'm just a dude with a bad back having a lot of fun with model trains, and finally building a layout!
The descriptions of the photos (now edited for better reading) refer to the photos in the previous posting.
Shaker Heights Rapid Transit 304, built as Aurora Elgine and Fox River 304 in 1924, sold to SHRT in 1936. See Richard's article in Trolleyville Times for further information.
s
Richard recently completed and is operating a model of a pre-WWII Los Angeles PCC and provided of it and others as well. See his article in Trolleyville Times.
Toronto LRV and Red Arrow Jewett No.40
and back to a Brill 1930-era Brooklyn single-end Peter-Witt 6000 in post-WWII colors:
And two Boston PCCs meet :=
Dave, Thanks for the update. Sure glad that model railroading comes in so many flavors. I find Traction modeling interesting and nostalgic, with recollection of riding the Key System interurbans with my grandmother as a youngster. During that time period Key System shared the green and yellow livery with Los Angeles Transit Lines.
Also enjoyed browsing The Trolleyville Times.
Thanks again and regards, Peter
Richard recently completed models of Shore Fast Line (Atlantic City - Ocean City, New Jersey) 101 and 102
At Sever Street Loop (Bostom):
Anothyer photo. 102 arriving at the New England Village:
Thanks Dave, I enjoyed the read and seeing the models. Regards, Peter