I have been looking for Hump Yard Purveyance to no avail. Does anyone know what happened to them? If they are out of business, does anyone have one of their Hump Yard Purveyance Levers they would be willing to part with. I would really like these for my layout even if I have to build them myself. Also I hope this is posted in the correct place. Thanks.
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Yep, they are closed. There was a brief discussion in here back in November.
They are done, notta, zilch, zero, outahere!
Nice looking stuff though, too bad!
Mike.
My You Tube
Are they willing to sell the operation? Or is that unknown?
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An optimist sees the light at the end of the tunnel
A realist sees a frieght train
An engineer sees three idiots standing on the tracks stairing blankly in space
I know nothing about the situation, I knew of their yard controlers, and their web site, but other than that, just the info that came out in the discussion we had back in November.
As a suggestion, you can join the HOswap.io group and do a "want to buy". Someone there may have some. Costs nothing to join.
here one for sale but way out of my price range https://www.ebay.com/itm/HO-N-SCALE-LEVER-STYLE-AUTHENTIC-MECHANICAL-TURNOUT-CONTROLS/233127708798?hash=item36477e887e:g:ebEAAOSwl2hcXzP6:rk:2:pf:0
j. c.here one for sale but way out of my price range
$6.25 each is right about what I paid five years ago when I bought them direct from Hump Yard. You can make an offer, too.
Buy this lot of 20 then sell off what you don't need?
Cheers, Ed
That seller needs to learn about paragraphs.
mbinsewiThat seller needs to learn about paragraphs.
Despite no parargraphs or lower case letters, the item is sold. (not to me)
Henry
COB Potomac & Northern
Shenandoah Valley
I wondered where ho swap went after the oath thing appeared
They went to Groups io.
https://groups.io/g/HOswap
There still is a smaller HO Swap in Yahoo, a few didn't move with the rest, and stayed there.
j. c. here one for sale but way out of my price range https://www.ebay.com/itm/HO-N-SCALE-LEVER-STYLE-AUTHENTIC-MECHANICAL-TURNOUT-CONTROLS/233127708798?hash=item36477e887e:g:ebEAAOSwl2hcXzP6:rk:2:pf:0
Just as a side note: I happened to meet with a CSX Exec the other day, he's way up the ladder as they say, and he advised me that CSX is ridding itself of the hump yards in the South as well as other yards. For decades they were humped in Atlanta for example where the freight cars were separated and then placed in a new consist for shipment to its destination city.
That will no longer be the case. Train consists will be assembled in the city of origin, then directly shipped to its city of destination, direct routing and no more humping and re-assembly of trains. That will all be by-passed and time saving, along with being more cost effective.
Just a little update,
Robert Sylvester
Newberry-Columbia Line, SC
robert sylvester and he advised me that CSX is ridding itself of the hump yards in the South as well as other yards
There's an article in the March TRAINS about it. Not just CSX.
Mike:
You're right, infact he mentioned several roads. It's a corporate things, cost cutting, etc. Eventually hump yards will be a thing of the past, the only ones left will be on model railroads I guess.
Did you get to make any for yourself? Any plans drawings etc and ideas. Thnaks
Charles Harris
robert sylvesterThat will all be by-passed and time saving, along with being more cost effective.
And that means more lost rail jobs.. So,you hold freight cars in the yard(terminal dwell time) until you have enough for a train going from (say) Balitmore to Chicago. I'm sure the shippers/recievers will love that.
Larry
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I'm not sure the the old way was any faster. Seems I heard a lot of stories of cars sitting in intermediate yards for days.....
Sheldon
ATLANTIC CENTRAL I'm not sure the the old way was any faster. Seems I heard a lot of stories of cars sitting in intermediate yards for days..... Sheldon
Sheldon,Terminal dwell time has always been a issue but,if you had 20 cars (say) bound for St.Louis,you could place those 20 cars in a train from (say) Russell to Chicago in the Queensgate bound block and the cars would be forwarded toward St.Louis instead of gaining terminal dwell time which amount to a longer intransit time.
BRAKIE robert sylvester That will all be by-passed and time saving, along with being more cost effective. And that means more lost rail jobs.. So,you hold freight cars in the yard(terminal dwell time) until you have enough for a train going from (say) Balitmore to Chicago. I'm sure the shippers/recievers will love that.
robert sylvester That will all be by-passed and time saving, along with being more cost effective.
Actually, no. Under PSR, the idea is to get cars out of the yards and reduce dwell time. At least at the big terminals. They assemble blocks going to a yard and put them on a train going in the general direction, and then will swap those blocks between trains. To have trains between every origin/destination would result in more trains. The trend is to have fewer, but longer trains doing more work enroute.
For example, a train leaving North Platte for Chicago, will have a block for St. Paul. It sets out that block at an intermediate yard for a later train that will go to St. Paul to pick up. Then at another yard it picks up a block going to Chicago that came off a different train.
Really, you're not reducing total dwell time, just spreading it around. The dwell time for a car at North Platte may have been cut by 10 or 12 hours, but it'll probably sit that long at an intermediate point waiting for it's next connection. But those metrics released to public concerning dwell time focus on the big terminals, like North Platte, but not so much on the little intermediate points. And if you average out yard dwell time for all yards as a whole, it's still reduced (on paper) because each yard is reporting shorter dwell times.
Those roads that have gone down the PSR route all seem to be focused on squeezing as many pennies as possible out of each dollar. Hump yards are expensive to operate and maintain. Flat switching is cheaper and can be just as efficient in some places. So it's good bye hump yard.
Jeff
jeffhergert BRAKIE robert sylvester That will all be by-passed and time saving, along with being more cost effective. And that means more lost rail jobs.. So,you hold freight cars in the yard(terminal dwell time) until you have enough for a train going from (say) Balitmore to Chicago. I'm sure the shippers/recievers will love that. Actually, no. Under PSR, the idea is to get cars out of the yards and reduce dwell time. At least at the big terminals. They assemble blocks going to a yard and put them on a train going in the general direction, and then will swap those blocks between trains. To have trains between every origin/destination would result in more trains. The trend is to have fewer, but longer trains doing more work enroute. For example, a train leaving North Platte for Chicago, will have a block for St. Paul. It sets out that block at an intermediate yard for a later train that will go to St. Paul to pick up. Then at another yard it picks up a block going to Chicago that came off a different train. Really, you're not reducing total dwell time, just spreading it around. The dwell time for a car at North Platte may have been cut by 10 or 12 hours, but it'll probably sit that long at an intermediate point waiting for it's next connection. But those metrics released to public concerning dwell time focus on the big terminals, like North Platte, but not so much on the little intermediate points. And if you average out yard dwell time for all yards as a whole, it's still reduced (on paper) because each yard is reporting shorter dwell times. Those roads that have gone down the PSR route all seem to be focused on squeezing as many pennies as possible out of each dollar. Hump yards are expensive to operate and maintain. Flat switching is cheaper and can be just as efficient in some places. So it's good bye hump yard. Jeff
Yes, the goal is to do almost all of the "sorting" at the point of orgin yard, not to keep resorting along the way. The trucking industry learned this lesson too.
If effective route plas are established, flat switching once is way cheaper than any kind of switching multiple times.
Several modelers I know have been conducting operating sessions this way for years........
jeffhergertThose roads that have gone down the PSR route all seem to be focused on squeezing as many pennies as possible out of each dollar. Hump yards are expensive to operate and maintain. Flat switching is cheaper and can be just as efficient in some places. So it's good bye hump yard. Jeff
When I started my student brakeman training I worked the CA&C yard and we could flat switch around 400 cars during a eight hour day but,there was two brakeman a student(me),a engineer and fireman in the cab plus a conductor watching us to ensure we obeyed safety and operating rules and we did a lot of kicking. My senior brakeman (OJT instructor) and I did a lot of back and forth walking in order to throw switches.
Another question how many cars can a man with a remote unit switch or does he have brakemen to help throw switches?
Flat switching in action
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEWE3df6Q2s
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