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MTH Steam Loco Wireless Drawbar

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MTH Steam Loco Wireless Drawbar
Posted by Arto on Friday, January 18, 2019 8:46 AM

Has anyone used MTH steam loco with wireless drawbar?

Are these any good or can I expect connectivity/communication issues, especially on curves on grades?

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Posted by mbinsewi on Friday, January 18, 2019 9:00 AM

I've never heard of that, had to look it up.  The only info and forum chat I found about it was for the "O" gauge, and that was simply doing a search for MTH wireless drawbar.

Is that what you have, O gauge?

Mike.

 

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Posted by Arto on Friday, January 18, 2019 9:56 AM

This is regarding HO

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Posted by gmpullman on Friday, January 18, 2019 10:16 AM

I have one MTH locomotive, the Empire State Express Hudson. It has a two conductor drawbar and has not given me any troubles.

I thought about replacing the DCS decoder with a DCC one but couldn't figure out how MTH gets motor, headlight and rail pickup through only two conductors. They may use a "split" decoder with the sound portion in the tender and the motor control portion in the locomotive.

I believe some MTH locomotives use even more conductors through the drawbar such as these:

https://mthtrains.com/protosound-wireless-drawbar

My Hudson has two bronze cat-whiskers on the inner left and right of the pin-hole which contact a two-sided sleeve over the locomotive pin.

Good Luck, Ed

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Posted by Trains213 on Wednesday, May 29, 2019 2:35 AM

Some of the draw bars are trouble some and some aren't, the original ones were junk, the two wire ones were pretty good, H10's, J Class, K4 latest, Allegheny needs upgraded draw bar, Yellowstone, cab forward latest all have issues with the draw bars that MTH knows about but refuses to fix and they are all considered a wireless draw bar by MTH.

As to the other poster changing to a DCC decoder would require you to put the decoder in the boiler as the two wire draw bar is a ground wire "purple" and a power/signal wire "blue" that allows the boiler decoder to receive signals from the tender decoder. For example the tender tells the boiler turn off the lights by sending a signal to the boiler and then the boiler turns it on or off. Otherwise you would have to increase the number of wires between the two or find a DCC decoder that has a boiler and tender portion that uses two wires.

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Posted by gmpullman on Wednesday, May 29, 2019 1:32 PM

Trains213
As to the other poster changing to a DCC decoder would require you to put the decoder in the boiler as the two wire draw bar is a ground wire "purple" and a power/signal wire "blue" that allows the boiler decoder to receive signals from the tender decoder.

Thank you for that information. I had a suspicion MTH was using something other than plain circuitry between the tender and engine.

For the time being, I'll keep the "Proto-Sound" decoder in there. It works and sounds OK.

Thanks again.

 Empire_5426PSM1 by Edmund, on Flickr

Cheers, Ed

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