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Athearn Trucks and Wheel Wipers Attachments

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Athearn Trucks and Wheel Wipers Attachments
Posted by cedarwoodron on Tuesday, December 11, 2018 6:28 AM

Time to improve the electrical contact on that Mantua slope back tender. I'm going to go cheap and use a pair of Athearn (post 2000 vintage) trucks and wheels I cannibalized. (I know they don't look proto, but...). The wheels are metal to allow me to install wipers but the axles and the truck itself appear to be acetal plastic (Delrin). Now, I want to install a piece of flat copper on the truck to which I will solder Tichy phosphor bronze wire to act as wipers on the wheel backs, then run electrical wire thru a hole in the metal frame base up to a brass screw set into the frame as the wiring connection.  A couple of questions:

Should I stick with a tiny screw into the truck to hold the copper piece or is there some alternative adhesive that will fix the copper piece to the plastic truck?

Is there any coating on stock Athearn wheels I should be aware of (to be removed from the wheel backsides) because these wheels are colored a dark bronze and I have read that some wheels are electrically nonconductive until a coating is removed. My only experience with wheel electrification is with Intermountain wheels, which don't have a color coating.

Better to find this stuff out now before I proceed further.

Cedarwoodron

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Posted by gmpullman on Tuesday, December 11, 2018 6:36 AM

If you're careful you can apply a little heat to the bronze wire to "set" it into the plastic bolster. Then give it a dab of sticky glue like GOO to help secure it, then bend them toward the wheel backs before you replace the wheels.

Or,

Try bending up some Kadee #5 centering springs. I've seen them used in pairs and the truck screw can pass through the large bolster hole already provided.

There was a thread here showing how to do it from 2009 but Photobucket and dead links make it worthless.

Here's a more recent link that might help, Mike Lehman has a good method:

http://cs.trains.com/mrr/f/744/t/257387.aspx

From there, read Mel's link from that thread.

 

http://cs.trains.com/mrr/f/88/t/256973.aspx

I've never had any problems with electrical continuity through the blackening. Eventually the blackening wears off, especially the wheel tread. You just have to clean gunk off the pickup wipers every now-and-then.

Good Luck, Ed

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Posted by RR_Mel on Tuesday, December 11, 2018 8:19 AM

I replaced the Photobucket hijacked picture in the earlier post.  I have another post that shows the Kadee spring wipers.
 
 
Since that post I found some #28 & #30 superflex wire, this stuff is really flexible.
 
 
You cab find it using an eBay search “Bntechgo 30 Gauge Silicone Wire Spool Black 50 Feet Ultra Flexible High Temp 200”
 
I bought a roll of both #28 & #30, it is the most flexible wire I’ve run into.  Even the #28 works great for power pickup from HO trucks.
 
Mel
 
 
My Model Railroad   
 
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I'm beginning to realize that aging is not for wimps.
 
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Posted by hminky on Tuesday, December 11, 2018 8:30 AM

Go to the horse's mouth:

http://www.pacificcoastairlinerr.com/1879/bachmann_4-4-0/sound/

Shows how to improve the electrics on a truly dreadful loco.

That is the most popular model railroading article on my website.

Thank you if you visit

Harold

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