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Coal Sounds for coal sliding down a chute VIDEO ADDED

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Coal Sounds for coal sliding down a chute VIDEO ADDED
Posted by C&O Fan on Tuesday, January 02, 2018 7:20 AM

Most of the sound decoders have a water fill sound but no coal filling the tender sound

If you want a DIY heres a site i found with some coal sounds that you can download for a reasonable price

https://www.pond5.com/sound-effects/1/coal-sounds.html

But be sure to read the restrictions Sections 3&5

https://www.pond5.com/legal/license?utm_source=email&utm_medium=license%20link&utm_campaign=customer%20service

 

 

 

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Posted by C&O Fan on Tuesday, January 02, 2018 7:38 AM

I'm in the process of building a sound car to park under my operating tipple

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0G3DkvCm9U

 

The top of the car will be removable

and inside will be a speaker and a decoder with the coal sounds

 

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Posted by mbinsewi on Tuesday, January 02, 2018 8:27 AM

Nice site.  Does the guys voice saying "pond5" go away when you pay?

And the terms, wow, lots of reading!.

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Posted by C&O Fan on Tuesday, January 02, 2018 9:03 AM

Yes his voice is just a watermark that prevents downloading for free

once you pay the voice disapears

The restructions are lots of reading but simplified they just dont want you reselling the sounds but you are free to use them for your self

 

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Posted by cedarwoodron on Wednesday, January 03, 2018 8:51 AM

Unfortunately, most of the old timers who remember the sound when coal was delivered to a building by sending it down a chute to the furnace in the basement are not around these days. But, I would suggest that gravel companies operations might have something similar or- any fellow hobbyists with real world mining experience might have some relevant sound advice. Also, the taconite ore processing done up in northeastern Minnesota may be a source of audio appropriate to coal being moved.

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Posted by C&O Fan on Thursday, January 04, 2018 9:48 AM

yes while looking for this site i found others including a couple gravel dump sites

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Posted by C&O Fan on Sunday, January 07, 2018 6:24 AM

I've been begging TCS to include a coal filling a tender sound since they already have a water fill sound

Soundtraxx and locsound should do the same

Even though there is a Fireman Fred Shoveling sound

Makes more sense to me rather than some of their random sounds like 2 way radio sounds

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Posted by C&O Fan on Thursday, January 11, 2018 6:11 AM

JD mailed the decoder with the sounds on it

I got it today and made a video of the test sounds

Here is how I have the decoder setup:

F1: Coal loading sound 1, (looping)
F2: Plant Whistle (looping)
F3:Coal loading sound 2 (looping)
F4: Coal loading sound 1 plays once with no looping
F5: Plant whistle, short toot
F6: coal loading sound 2 plays once with no looping

Here's the video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DMnRjgvK-k

I'm pleased with the sounds what do you think ?

 

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Posted by C&O Fan on Friday, January 12, 2018 7:55 AM

Here's a video of the car on the layout

providing sound at the tipple


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5Y74HWf684

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Posted by Overmod on Friday, January 12, 2018 7:28 PM

This is cute but utterly unprototypical in a number of respects.

Why on earth put a decoder with the sound of coal loading inside a car that is obviously and visibly full of coal already?  I believe you mentioned that your coal tipple is 'operational'; why not then provide an appropriate size speaker and amplifier under the tipple connected to an appropriate sound module or decoder coordinated with dispensing coal into an initially-empty hopper car?

Likewise, you can have the much slower and different sound of coal being released through the hopper gates of an unloading car at whatever destination point(s) you have built, and for fun provide some sort of electrically-actuated discharge gate release mechanism either on the car or connecting to mechanical linkage on it to empty the 'operating' coal.  (If I were doing this I might arrange to have the coal 'transported' under the layout and returned to the tipple by some combination of belts and bucket chain, but it could just as easily be done periodically by cheap GHA...)

I have no idea what the point of a lunch whistle in a hopper car is, though, especially when there aren't coal-discharge or other unloading sounds in the car's memory.  It's no 'less' prototypical to have that car pretend to be discharging coal without the evident level dropping than it is to pretend to be filling when it's already full.  So I'd use the capability for that, and perhaps add some other coal-loading-related sound files (a portable loader like the Red Devil being one obvious alternative) to make the autonomous sound-equipped hopper more useful in other operating contexts.

If I might make a suggestion: put the sound equipment in one end of the car, or the speaker at one end and the 'electronics' and battery under the side or slope sheets at the other end.  That would give you the best of both worlds: autonomous sound capability 'wherever the car goes' and the ability to load and discharge particulate material with verisimilitude as desired.

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Posted by C&O Fan on Saturday, January 13, 2018 1:44 AM

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Posted by C&O Fan on Saturday, January 13, 2018 2:36 AM

Overmod

This is cute but utterly unprototypical in a number of respects.

Why on earth put a decoder with the sound of coal loading inside a car that is obviously and visibly full of coal already?

Sorry for your confusion its something you have to see to understand

The sound car is ahead of the car being loaded

 

 

  I believe you mentioned that your coal tipple is 'operational';

See this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkXbsP0pwUk

 

why not then provide an appropriate size speaker and amplifier under the tipple connected to an appropriate sound module or decoder coordinated with dispensing coal into an initially-empty hopper car?

The car cuts the cost in half because it can be moved over to the coaling tower on the other side of the layout where a second sound modual would be needed

Likewise, you can have the much slower and different sound of coal being released through the hopper gates of an unloading car at whatever destination point(s) you have built,

The sound is the same as the speed of the discharge is the same since there are 2 discharge bays

.  (If I were doing this I might arrange to have the coal 'transported' under the layout and returned to the tipple by some combination of belts and bucket chain, but it could just as easily be done periodically by cheap GHA...)<<<<< WHAT IS GHA ?

Its about 25 ft away so its just as easy to use a tupperware container and carry it back to the tipple and dump it in

I have no idea what the point of a lunch whistle in a hopper car is,

Most coal mines had lunch time whistles

The car is used for sound effects and is used in
Proximity to the action

If I might make a suggestion: put the sound equipment in one end of the car, or the speaker at one end and the 'electronics' and battery under the side or slope sheets at the other end.  That would give you the best of both worlds: autonomous sound capability 'wherever the car goes' and the ability to load and discharge particulate material with verisimilitude as desired.

 See the photo of the inside of the car in the construction thread
there is no battery since the decoder runs off track power

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Posted by C&O Fan on Saturday, January 13, 2018 8:36 AM

Its hard to see the coal leaving the car because of the lighting

i will have to re shoot this

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtStJmUqaiQ

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Posted by Overmod on Saturday, January 13, 2018 12:02 PM

I actually stand corrected here: Terry thought the thing out better than I did.  In several respects.

"GHA" is a very old model-railroading term for "giant hand action" - the 'deus ex machina' of the hobby, as it were.  It's related to using an 0-5-0 switcher for car spotting or coupling.

Now, what had me thinking, reading the original post, was the applicability of this to coaling locomotive tenders, where you would periodically allow some of the visible coal to drop down out of the pile at periodic locations 'in secret' (perhaps past a simulated stoker worm if actual drop gates would be too obtrusive?) and then model the refilling of coal (with sound effects) to go with the taking water.  This also would take care of that analogue to TV-western gunfighters who never run out of bullets, the 'real coal' pile in the tender that never goes down or changes as the locomotive runs in service...

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Posted by C&O Fan on Monday, January 15, 2018 1:31 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAdcWaAlMIo

I re shot the video of the sound car at the coaling tower for a clearer view of it dumping the coal

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Posted by C&O Fan on Tuesday, January 23, 2018 8:21 AM

Here's an update of all three uses of the coal car

Loading a hopper

Dumping at the coaling tower

Filling a tender

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2cVhvxfJ_U

 

 

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