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Posted by ROBERT PETRICK on Friday, August 4, 2017 11:15 AM

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There are other means for people to get social fulfillment - this forum is one very obvious outlet

 

...and the forum has the added benefit of not allowing me to punch someone in the mouth if I get offended. Smile

And vice versa the other way around.Big Smile

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Posted by riogrande5761 on Friday, August 4, 2017 11:20 AM

gmpullman

The downfall of modern civilization!

 Sears_A by Edmund, on Flickr

"Our Trade Reaches Around The World!"

Cheers, Ed 

Do you define "modern" as 117 years ago?  As for the fall of Sears, the current CEO is a recluse who has totally missmanaged Sears and failed to  adapt it to modern commerce methods.

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Posted by Water Level Route on Friday, August 4, 2017 11:30 AM

Water Level Route

Hence the move to more warehouse room.  Sadly, model rail shops are not the only businesses having to go this route.

 

OK.  So it seems a lot of people misintepreted my post.  How is that possible on a forum? Laugh I don't think it's sad they have gone so heavily toward mail order.  Actually, I'm glad they did as they are my go-to source, but that's partly because I no longer have a local hobby store.  I'm glad MB Klein did it and are being successful.  Yes there is a lost social aspect that an LHS could provide, but I didn't take much advantage of that.  I like to see & inspect a purchase up close and personal before buying and living where I do makes a trip to a brick & mortar hobby shop or a train show inconvenient to say the least. Good local hobby shops also helped to promote the hobby.  No I'm not jumping on a "This hobby is dying" thing, but I do think it could be more successful if more LHS's had been able to stay in business.  On that note, the jobs lost by the closing of these stores are not fully absorbed by other businesses so there is the real cost of fewer jobs.  Not saying any of this is wrong as it's just the way it is.  To survive you must adapt.  Some do, some don't.  Maybe I'm just waxing nostalgic.  Just the way I feel.

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Posted by riogrande5761 on Friday, August 4, 2017 11:33 AM

carl425
 
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There are other means for people to get social fulfillment - this forum is one very obvious outlet 

...and the forum has the added benefit of not allowing me to punch someone in the mouth if I get offended. Smile

Lets see, a forum full of grumpy old men?  Nah.... that wouldn't happen would it?   Rough neighborhood these train forums!   Pirate

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Posted by Water Level Route on Friday, August 4, 2017 11:36 AM

riogrande5761
Lets see, a forum full of grumpy old men?  Nah.... that wouldn't happen would it?   Rough neighborhood these train forums!   

LaughYes

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Posted by LensCapOn on Friday, August 4, 2017 11:47 AM

riogrande5761

 

 
gmpullman

The downfall of modern civilization!

 Sears_A by Edmund, on Flickr

"Our Trade Reaches Around The World!"

Cheers, Ed 

 

 

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Posted by PRR8259 on Friday, August 4, 2017 11:53 AM

Those wanting a better store to browse through should seriously consider making the drive to English's Model RR Supply in Montoursville, PA. The retail store has moved into what was once part of the Bowser factory, so space is not a concern.  They have a very nice inventory and helpful staff. They do have a large mail order operation, but the retail store customers are able to browse the same inventory as the mail order pickers pick from.  There are also specific areas of the store that are off limits to internet/mail order picking, as those new(er) products are reserved for walk-in retail customers only.  That is specifically to protect the regular customers, so that they do not miss out on new releases.

It's a really nice train store, larger than any of the ones at or near Strasburg, PA, ever was.

Many folks come from north of the US border to shop there, as they are only several minutes east of US 15, a major north-south truck route in PA and NY.

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Posted by gmpullman on Friday, August 4, 2017 12:11 PM

riogrande5761
Do you define "modern" as 117 years ago?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_history

The "Fall Of Civilization" was a bit of "tongue-in-cheek" commentary, usually predicted when new technologies, such as the steam boat, or electricity or the printing press come along before the masses are generally ready to accept the concepts of such conveniences.

My only point in using the example of the Sears catalog was their pioneering effort in the convenience of "ordering by [choose preference here, telegraph; letter; telephone; telex; internet] and having your merchandise delivered to your door, or the nearest team track.

Sing the Wells Fargo Wagon song from the Music Man...

I have no interest in the goings-on of the CEO of Sears.

Thanks, Ed

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Posted by riogrande5761 on Friday, August 4, 2017 12:38 PM

gmpullman
 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_history

The "Fall Of Civilization" was a bit of "tongue-in-cheek" commentary

Pretty much no other way to take it but I was naughty and had to comment anyway.

[quote], usually predicted when new technologies, such as the steam boat, or electricity or the printing press come along before the masses are generally ready to accept the concepts of such conveniences.

My only point in using the example of the Sears catalog was their pioneering effort

I have no interest in the goings-on of the CEO of Sears.

Thanks, Ed

Me neither but i read the news and as long as we are continuing the usual pracitice here of veering quickly off topic, I'm just doing my part to participate in that regard!  Don't shoot the messenger! 

And the CEO of Sears may not have been able to prevent the fall of Sears, but he sure has accelerated it's demise from what I've read.

I sort of have one foot in the old ph@rt category and the other in the new hi-tech world; my foot in the former waxes a bit nostaglic.  My wife and I have continued to shop at Sears, Kmart and other department stores so yeah, it's a little sad to see them all closing down.  But since we also do a lot of online shopping, at least we've adapted and will hopefully survive until the next tech revolution and then maybe we'll be like half the people here and have a hard time keeping quiet!  :p

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Posted by BRAKIE on Friday, August 4, 2017 1:07 PM

riogrande5761
And the CEO of Sears may not have been able to prevent the fall of Sears, but he sure has accelerated it's demise from what I've read.

And the same can be said about CSX since a lot of their customers shifted to NS and truckers...

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Posted by gmpullman on Friday, August 4, 2017 2:23 PM

riogrande5761
My wife and I have continued to shop at Sears, Kmart and other department stores so yeah, it's a little sad to see them all closing down.

I agree with you there, Rio Grande, and speaking of adapting to "new" technologies, I recall in the late '70s the Sears store at our local mall had a catalog ordering center where several kiosks were set up with red, dial-less, telephones connected directly to Chicago. Just like at Klein's, if you didn't see what you needed in the store— pick up the phone, place your order and you could have it delivered to home for the shipping fee or sent to the store (any Sears store IIRC) for free.

Sometimes what we perceive as NEW is really an old idea simply rehashed and made to seem new.

I don't think we really drifted too far off course on this thread... this time anyway.

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Posted by Bayfield Transfer Railway on Friday, August 4, 2017 4:44 PM

If I had unlimited money and a desire to start a business, model railroading is the LAST industry I'd enter.

Can't please these old b*stards at all.  Laugh

 

Disclaimer:  This post may contain humor, sarcasm, and/or flatulence.

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Posted by BigDaddy on Saturday, August 5, 2017 8:23 AM

PRR8259
Those wanting a better store to browse through should seriously consider making the drive to English's Model RR Supply in Montoursville, PA. T

That would be a 7 hour round trip but I've wasted 7 hours in worse ways.  It is on the way to the Finger Lakes and I'd like to see the vintage car race in Watkins Glen. Watkins Glen has a series of waterfalls and it ought to be on all your bucket lists.

One could study the Walthers catalog, but with so many things listed as out of stock, you might think those products don't exist.  It's nice to see them hanging on a rack and it's even better to see stuff you didn't know was available, that you can use on your layout.

Randy could have been describing my personality.  I've been to the new Pro Custom Hobbies in Sykesville MD.  It used to be in Baltimore.  There were 3 of us, the guy behind the counter, a customer pushing 80 and myself.  Turns out we all knew some people from Sevena Park Model RR club. The old guy offered some very good advice for my layout build. 

If the store were closer and I was on the other side of 70, I could see it being a routice social stop.

BRAKIE
And the same can be said about CSX since a lot of their customers shifted to NS and truckers...

Now there's an interesting story.  An activist investor twisted the arms of CSX to bring in Hunter Harrison from CP.  When he left CP he forfeited, depending on where you read it $70-100 mil of pension benefits and CSX paind that and gave him 1% of the company.  And that's for a guy who is not in good health.

He denied being anti-customer but I see they are being sued by a customer.

back to the current topic

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Posted by willy6 on Saturday, August 5, 2017 10:31 AM

I think LHS's we all knew and loved will someday end up being "Tourist Attractions" of days gone.

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Posted by tstage on Saturday, August 5, 2017 11:34 AM

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Tom, you must be moving closer to me, or else you drive a lot faster than I do (not likely LOL ). It's an hour and a half for me to get down there, and nearly 6 hours to get out to just above Franklin, so if it only takes you 3 hours to get to Timonium... --Randy

Randy,

I moved to western PA about 2-1/2 years ago - about an hour W of Altoona.  I checked Google.  It's more like a 3-1/2 hr drive to MB Klein/Timonium for me.  If I still lived in OH it would be 2 hrs longer than that. Big Smile

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Posted by SpringStreet on Saturday, August 5, 2017 1:30 PM

Another vote for English's Model Railroad shop in Williamsport PA (north central Pennsylvania; very close to north-south US 15 (now I-99) and about 35 minutes from east-west I-80). I stop in a few times a year, while en route elsewhere. The amount of material out on open shelves is quite substantial (more than Klein's, Strasburg, Gilbert's, Trainland and others I've seen in the region). Helpful staff; last time I was there I had a question about refitting an older Bowser product, and the clerk at the checkout sent me to Mr. English's office to talk with him about it. As noted above, it's the retail side of Toy Train Heaven mail order and Bowser manufacturing.  Check hours and location on their website.

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Posted by SpringStreet on Saturday, August 5, 2017 4:19 PM
Correction: English's is in Montoursville, just east of much larger Williamsport.

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