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Need Some Help Locating Screws for Trucks

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Need Some Help Locating Screws for Trucks
Posted by StevePcola on Tuesday, June 27, 2017 9:00 PM

Recently getting back in to HO model railroading. I purchased a Train Miniature brand kit for a Frisco Fast Freight double sheathed box car. Unfortunately, the kit was missing screws to attach the trucks. Can anyone recommend the correct size of screws that I should be getting from my local hardware store? Thanks!

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Posted by G Paine on Tuesday, June 27, 2017 10:42 PM

HO trucks usually use 2-56 x 1/4" or 3/8" screws. It is unlikely that you will find these at a hardware store, but a hobby shop may have them. There are a number of websites that sell them, search for 2-56 screw

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Posted by hon30critter on Tuesday, June 27, 2017 11:26 PM

Hi Steve!

Welcome back to the hobby!   Welcome

Here is a great source for all kinds of small fastening hardware:

https://www.microfasteners.com/

George is right about the 2/56 screws being the most common. I keep several different lengths on hand.

https://www.microfasteners.com/home.php?cat=567

However, when I look at a Train Miniature parts diagram the screws shown appear to have a coarse thread:

http://hoseeker.net/TrainMiniatureslist/tm40doublesheathedboxcar2000pg1.jpg

It actually doesn't make a lot of difference whether the thread is coarse or fine as long as you stick with the same style of screw and don't switch them back and forth in the same opening.

Self tapping screws are great too, although the regular screws do a decent job of cutting their own threads.

https://www.microfasteners.com/home.php?cat=691

Cheers!!

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Posted by NVSRR on Wednesday, June 28, 2017 6:32 AM

For price comparisons.  Walthers and micromark also have them. Grainger and fastenal are two other potential options so is amazon

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Posted by SouthPenn on Wednesday, June 28, 2017 6:43 AM
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Posted by BigDaddy on Wednesday, June 28, 2017 7:05 AM

I got my 2-56 x 1/4 from ebay.  They are black, shipping is free and it's $7/100  Some people tap the holes and some don't.  I do.  Kadee or Dubros make a drill and tap set. 

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Posted by BRAKIE on Wednesday, June 28, 2017 8:04 AM

BigDaddy

I got my 2-56 x 1/4 from ebay.  They are black, shipping is free and it's $7/100  Some people tap the holes and some don't.  I do.  Kadee or Dubros make a drill and tap set. 

 

I will second this but,will add you can get them cheaper $4.99 for 100 with free shipping.

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Posted by slammin on Wednesday, June 28, 2017 8:09 AM

Don't buy anything longer than 1/4 inch. 

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Posted by Omaha53 on Wednesday, June 28, 2017 8:20 AM
I get my 2-56 screws at a local hardware store (not a big box store). Sometimes they have them in stock, but if they don't they will order a box of 100 for me. They arrive in 3-4 days and the price is very reasonable. I use 2 sizes mainly: 1/8" for coupler pockets and 1/4" for trucks. I have bought some 3/16" for trucks where 1/4 would not work.
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Posted by NittanyLion on Wednesday, June 28, 2017 8:22 AM

slammin

Don't buy anything longer than 1/4 inch. 

 

I wouldn't say that. I've seen some 5/16th screws show up in kits. 

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Posted by RR_Mel on Wednesday, June 28, 2017 9:24 AM

Because I’m into restoring and kitbashing I stock SAE, Metric and self taping screws from #2 to #6 in lengths up to ¾”.  All are available on eBay with simple searches at very good pricing.  I buy in quantity (50 to 100) for best price, screws, nuts and washers.
 
There are also assortments available if you don’t want to buy in bulk.
   
 
 
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Posted by G Paine on Wednesday, June 28, 2017 10:59 AM

Omaha53
if they don't they will order a box of 100 for me

I used to do this at a local hardware store, then they started charging UPS shipping to have a box of 100 screws drop shipped to their location. $8 or$9 shipping for a purchase of a few dollars! Sigh

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Posted by Lone Wolf and Santa Fe on Wednesday, June 28, 2017 11:26 AM

    You will not find machine screws, which is their correct name, at home depot or loews. Some smaller independent hardware stores may stock them. You may also find them in electronic parts stores where you can buy capacitors and things of that sort which is where I would look first. Your local hobby store has over priced ones from Kadee. If they are too long you can easily cut them with the bolt cutter which is built into some wire strippers. That is what I always do.
   

 

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Posted by ROBERT PETRICK on Wednesday, June 28, 2017 11:42 AM

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    You will not find machine screws, which is their correct name, at home depot or loews. Some smaller independent hardware stores may stock them.

I think I found some at Home Depot before. And here's a link to online purchase. A bit pricey, but available.

http://www.homedepot.com/p/The-Hillman-Group-2-56-x-1-4-in-Phillips-Pan-Head-Machine-Screws-50-Pack-3727/204801184

Not endorsing HD, merely pointing out an option.

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Posted by IRONROOSTER on Wednesday, June 28, 2017 11:43 AM

I just bought a TM double sheath NYC boxcar.  The screws are 1/4 inch, 2-56's - not self tapping or coarse.  The hole is not tapped.

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Posted by slammin on Wednesday, June 28, 2017 11:47 AM

NittanyLion

 

 
slammin

Don't buy anything longer than 1/4 inch. 

 

 

 

I wouldn't say that. I've seen some 5/16th screws show up in kits. 

 

Train Miniature kits include 3/16 long 2-56 screws for the trucks. Sure you can use longer screws, but if you glue the kit weights in their intended position and run a screw thats too long in the bolster, the screw will jack up the weight.  Always better to do it right than have to do it over.

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Posted by StevePcola on Wednesday, June 28, 2017 2:51 PM

Thanks for the info...much appreciated!

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Posted by StevePcola on Wednesday, June 28, 2017 3:19 PM

My local hardware store usually has whatever I need, but modeling-sized fasteners weren't on his radar. I think I'll try to "negotiate" for him to order a pkg of 100 in the 3 lengths for me, depending on the final price.

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Wednesday, June 28, 2017 3:40 PM

My source is a number of local train shows.  The bigger ones have a "tool guy" with screws, and the smaller ones have a "screw guy" who also sells vehicles and a lot of Accurail kits.  He is always freshly stocked at every show.

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Posted by cowman on Wednesday, June 28, 2017 10:51 PM

My local, independent hardware store carries them and smaller.  Unless you need a large quantity, I'd try them.

Good luck,

Richard

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