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Custom paint schemes for your private road(s)
Posted by dieseldoc on Sunday, June 11, 2017 6:25 PM

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c233/diecastnut/IMG_2154-1_zpsbte7x97o.jpg

My railroad is the "Southern Atlantic Seaboard" which denotes a fictitious merger of the southeastern roads of the Southernj, Atlantic Coast LIne and Seaboard Air Line in the mid 50's.  It consists primarily of F units and GP7's with a few late steam engines.  My color scheme is a combinatino of the three roads.  Southern Green, Silver & Black from the ACL and orange & yellow from the SAL.  Pictured is a EMD F3A with a steel caboose.

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Posted by Bundy74 on Sunday, June 11, 2017 7:15 PM

I like it.  Thats a nice combo of colors and styling cues, and it results in a well-done, realistic looking scheme.  Well done!

Who did your decals?

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Sunday, June 11, 2017 7:31 PM

My trolleys and buses are all operated by the Moose Bay Transity Authority.

I chose a light colored body so that that I could print dark decals and have them work well.  I also used two easily-obtained rattle-can paint colors that I just though went well together.

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Posted by dieseldoc on Sunday, June 11, 2017 7:46 PM

Thank you.  The lettering and herld wasn't done by a regular decal manufacturer, it was done by a gentleman I met via a Yahoo group.  I sent him the font type and a general idea of what I wanted and he did the rest, printing them with an ALPS printer.  The orange stripes are Microscale.  The silver stripe on the loco was masked and painted.

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Posted by dieseldoc on Sunday, June 11, 2017 7:46 PM

Are these Corgi 1/50 scale?

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Sunday, June 11, 2017 7:58 PM

John, this is the image from your original post so people do not need ot click the link.

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Nice loco!

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Posted by 7j43k on Sunday, June 11, 2017 8:20 PM

Yup, an elegant scheme.

I do hope I see it on an ABBA set.  Which is also elegant.

 

 

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Posted by BRAKIE on Sunday, June 11, 2017 8:43 PM

I agree that is indeed a very elegant scheme..I would like to see that scheme on a GP7/or GP9.

I bought this SW1500 off e-Bay for two reasons I liked the name and scheme-ACL colors.I don't know why it looks dark blue in the photo.

 

 

 

 

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Posted by dieseldoc on Sunday, June 11, 2017 8:48 PM

Thanks.  Wasn't sure the pic came through on the original post.

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Posted by dieseldoc on Sunday, June 11, 2017 8:49 PM

I am working on a modified scheme on a Atlas GP7.  Will post when it is finished.

 

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Posted by dieseldoc on Sunday, June 11, 2017 9:00 PM

Is that a silver stripe?  It looks white in the photo.

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Posted by BRAKIE on Sunday, June 11, 2017 9:27 PM

dieseldoc

Is that a silver stripe?  It looks white in the photo.

 

Yes,it painted in ACL's purple,sliver and gold pin stripe scheme with silver lettering and purple numbers..

Its in this scheme.

http://www.railpictures.net/photo/369276/

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Posted by tomikawaTT on Sunday, June 11, 2017 10:08 PM

Very nice paint scheme that captures the transition era 'feel.'  I would like to see how you've painted and lettered your steam locos.

The Tomikawa Tani Tetsudo adheres to Japanese practice.  Freight equipment and steam locomotives are basic black, distinguished from their JNR counterparts only by the presence of the 'Tomi Maru' (circle outline containing the kanji Tomi and Kawa in white) above the car type designator and number.  Passenger stock is grunge (red clay mixed with coal dust) with black roof and underbody.  The diesel rail bus has a nice scheme, grey roof, cream upper body, traction orange lower body, black frame and pedestals - matching the scheme used on JNR DMU cars.

I will readily admit that the OP has a much more aesthetically pleasing scheme.

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Posted by SouthPenn on Sunday, June 11, 2017 10:34 PM

A simple cream and green paint scheme for the Blacklog Trainmasters.

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Posted by doctorwayne on Monday, June 12, 2017 2:19 AM

I have several freelanced roads, most of which started mainly as diesel-era lines, then were back-dated to a late '30s steam-era look...

Globe F-units:

...various geeps and SDs...

...and Model Power FA and FBs, all in the double grey and green freight paint scheme...

I modified a Model Power FA/FB set into a passenger FPA/FPB set and gave it a paint scheme based on the CNR's '50s-era freight scheme....

...that was brought about when Floquil discontinued their Polly S line of paints, which I used to brush-paint all of the preceding locos, and I couldn't find a suitable green to match that on the earlier locos. Angry
I also had quite a few passenger cars and headend equipment painted (with a brush) in that dark green, too, but sold them, along with passenger diesels painted in a scheme similar to the freight scheme - no photos.

I did try some Model Master paints in a green not quite the same as the Polly S version, and painted this E8A...

...and E7B (phase II)...

...along with an eleven car train of Rivarossi passenger cars like this...

All of the lettering and striping on this passenger train was painted, while the lettering on the freight diesels was done with Champ alphabet sets.  

The earlier passenger cars mentioned were all brush-painted with the Polly S green (Dark Olive Drab - a military colour), and lettered using C-D-S dry transfer alphabet sets, while these cars...

...were airbrushed using SMP Accupaint (CNR Green #11), and also lettered with dry transfer alphabet sets...in all, older and more recent, just under 100 passenger cars.

More modern diesels, like these U-boats, got a simplified paint scheme (with painted lettering)...

...and I had several Model Power Alco Centuries (no photos) done in a grey and black scheme similar to the CN's "sergeant stripe" scheme, but with dark green cabs (also with painted lettering)...

The EG&E wasn't my only road at that time, and the neighbouring Grand Valley was using four of these SW1200RS units (modified Athearn SW7s).  All major lettering is painted...

...while a subsidiary line used this NW2 (another modified Athearn SW7) for local switching.  It's based on the CNR's freight scheme of the '50s, and is painted and lettered in a manner similar to the FP-units shown earlier...

Another road modelled was the Grand River & Northern Lake Erie, known locally as the Erie Northshore.  An all-Alco road, it used a pair of Atlas RS-11s and a pair of re-worked Life-Like (Proto-no-thousand) RS-11s with their motors removed) for mainline duties...

while an Atlas S-4 took care of switching duties...

When I decided to backdate my layout to a late-'30s era, most of the diesels were sold, and the rest placed in a display case.

The EG&E isn't actually modelled, even though almost all of the home road rolling stock on the layout is lettered for it.  The story is that the Grand Valley  was absorbed by the EG&E, and most of its rolling stock was re-painted and re-lettered into the EG&E's numbering system.  The Grand Valley locomotives, passenger equipment and cabooses still cary the Grand Valley name.  Here's the Grand Valley's paint scheme for its 2-6-0 and 2-8-0 steam locomotives (based on those of the prototype TH&B)...

The Erie Northshore locomotives (2-8-2s and 4-6-0s) are painted somewhat similar to the diesels that preceded them...

...as is the only diesel officially on the layout, the former gas-electric "BEE"...

There are a couple of EG&E locomotives which are occasionally seen on Grand Valley or Northshore tracks, including this Bachmann  USRA Light Mountain (known as a Mohawk, named not for the river, but for the people indigenous to the area through which the tracks run)...

 

This Bachmann former Santa Fe loco was the first to wear the lettering scheme, but it's gone to a friend in Wisconsin...

...and this John English Pacific, my oldest locomotive, is currently undergoing a make-over, and may re-appear as a Grand Valley loco.  The tender shown is scratchbuilt...

Freight cars are generally boxcar red...

...while boxcars get black ends and roofs...

...and reefers are orange, with boxcar red ends and roofs...

Earlier freight cars, representing a more modern era, looked like this...

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Posted by dieseldoc on Monday, June 12, 2017 5:48 AM

Thanks.  I love the ACL purple/silver scheme.  That's why my railroad modeling era stops at 1958.  ACL began painting their locomotives black/yellow in 1958.  I think the flash washed out your photo just a little, makes the stripe look almost white.

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Posted by dieseldoc on Monday, June 12, 2017 5:50 AM

Very nice color scheme.

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Posted by dieseldoc on Monday, June 12, 2017 5:52 AM

Wow Wayne, beautiful work.

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Posted by RobertSchuknecht on Monday, June 12, 2017 2:15 PM

A simple black with white graphics on my Detroit Southern.

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Posted by E-L man tom on Tuesday, June 13, 2017 9:41 AM

I'm really enjoying all the freelanced variations. Very nice work that you all have done. The only locomotive (so far) in my freelanced roster is a plain variation of the old Erie black and yellow paint scheme. I just acquired an older release Life Like P2K SW9/1200 that I will paint into the same scheme; it's presently in Lehigh Valley livery (Cornell red).

Wayne, I have two questions for you: 1) How did you paint the lettering on your locomotives?, that's very nice work! and, 2) How did you manage to get such a smooth paint job on those locomotives with a brush? No brush marks visible. Amazing!

Tom Modeling the free-lanced Toledo Erie Central switching layout.
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Posted by dragonriversteel on Tuesday, June 13, 2017 10:09 AM

Wayne,

Fantastic modeling. Only one question. Has your modeling even graced the pages of MR ? It should be featured.

  Grand River Southern #53 . Where did you get decals made ? That's just about what I had in mind for my roster. Although my locos will be all black with yellow handrails. White hand brake wheels and white grib irons.

In desperate need of yellow background decals. Who made them ?

Thank you for your time.

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Posted by PM Railfan on Tuesday, June 13, 2017 12:23 PM

As most of you know the are no PM  models available on the commercial market. And even less so available when I started modelling the PM. The PM didnt survive into the diesel era. So, all the paint going on my models had to be custom. And back when i started, diesels ruled the market. Of which Ive amassed around 100 or so first and second generation diesels.

Rivarossi Berkshires (around 10 of them) were the only steamer I could get that was somewhat close. No grand paint scheme there obviously.

Since the PM had very very few diesels this left me with freelancing a road, or using up alot of frequent flyer miles on my 'modellers license' to bring the PM into the diesel era. This would let me use all those diesels instead of selling them which i could never, ever do!

The following are a few ideas of my freelanced line AND of the PM. Had it made it passed 1947......

 

Here is what a PM GP7-A would look like. Following the paint scheme used by previous PM 'freight' diesels. Black base, gold striping with 'salmon' colored borders, standard gold lettering.

 

 

Some of you know the history of the Van Sweringen roads which the PM was one of. As was the C&O who took over the PM. In keeping with that theme here is a GP7-A in the passenger livery. Very close to the PM E7-A's and resembling the after merger passenger schemes of the C&O.

 

 

 Im sure you all recognize this livery as C&O. Still keeping up the theme as if the merger never happened, but still same-owner roads.

 

 Here is one of my favorites! I just love a bulldog face (on a locomotive). Again, PM's salmon striped livery on black.

 

 I love SD45s, but this scheme just really doesnt look good.

 

 SO, if you add freelancing upon freelancing, in other words..... freelancing squared..... this beautiful speciman is what you get. Not only did the PM never make it to 1966, but they never had a scheme as colorful as this.

 

 

Now, if I dont decide to carry the PM past the steam era, the following line was conceived back in the 1990's after playing a Sid Miers 'Rails' game on a PC.

 

This is a freight variant of the F7-A.

 

Another use of the 'Sunset Scheme' as seen above on the PM SD45.

 

 Heres the passenger version which pulls the 'Silver Leaf' streamliner.

 

 These are the units you would see laboring over heavy coal drags or pusher service on the Four Rivers..

 

 And ofcourse, what railroad is complete without some high horsepower?

 

Fun post.

PM Railfan

 

(edit) PS: Wayne, I concur with the above mentions that you should be featured in MR. Along with a select couple of other folks here who produce some astounding stuff!  

 

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Posted by dieseldoc on Tuesday, June 13, 2017 3:29 PM

GP7 in Southern Atlantic Seaboard paintHere is a variation of my Southern Atlantic Seaboard paint scheme.  This time on a GP7.

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Posted by doctorwayne on Tuesday, June 13, 2017 10:07 PM

Thanks to all for the kind words.

E-L man tom
Wayne, I have two questions for you: 1) How did you paint the lettering on your locomotives?, that's very nice work! and, 2) How did you manage to get such a smooth paint job on those locomotives with a brush? No brush marks visible. Amazing!

Tom, the models were painted (brush or airbrush) with the colour of the lettering and/or striping, then lettered with dry transfers.  However, the final step for lettering with dry transfers, burnishing the lettering, was not done.  
Where necessary, masking was added, then the model painted with the contrasting colour.  As soon as the paint was dry to the touch, I used masking tape to dab at the dry transfer letters, lifting them in pieces or as whole letters, and revealing the colour of the paint first used.

Of the models shown, only the diesels in the first four photos and the John English Pacific were brush painted, and for those, I used Polly S (predecessor of Polly Scale) paint.  Those two greys and the dark green were beautiful paints with which to work using a brush, but some of the other colours were absolutely miserable.  
Prior to that, I had been brush painting with Floquil or, for freight cars, using automotive red primer.

dragonriversteel

....Grand River Southern #53 . Where did you get decals made ? That's just about what I had in mind for my roster. Although my locos will be all black with yellow handrails. White hand brake wheels and white grib irons.

In desperate need of yellow background decals. Who made them?...

The 53's paint scheme was based on the CNR's '50s-era paint scheme, and I used SMP's Accupaint (CNR Green #11 and CNR Yellow #11).  That yellow patch for the roadname was painted, as outlined above, then I took a similar sized yellow patch from an Accucal CNR decal set and cut out the "CANADIAN NATIONAL" and most of the yellow background, leaving only the black pinstriping and a bit of the yellow to strengthen the pinstripe.  The striping decal was applied with some care, then the black lettering was applied using C-D-S dry transfers from an alphabet set.
The cab number was done somewhat in the same manner, with the entire cab airbrushed yellow, then lettered with large dry transfer numerals from Letraset.  The cab was then airbrushed green, the dry transfer numerals removed, then another dry transfer, this time the same font and size as the first, but the transfers being only a black outline, was applied to make the numerals stand out and look somewhat comparable to the black-outlined name patch. 

dragonriversteel

....one question. Has your modeling even graced the pages of MR ? It should be featured.

Thanks, and yes, once in MR's Paint Shop...the February 1980 issue.  
I wanted to do a couple of models of my hometown's own railroad's locomotives...

...but the only lettering available at that time was yellow decals, I believe, from Walthers.  Undaunted, I bough two Athearn geeps (one powered and one dummy) and set about customising them to match b&w detail photos I had taken of two particular prototypes.  I also had lots of colour photos of the two being modelled, and mixed Polly S paint to match the colours on the photos.   I must have done a pretty-good mixing job, as the paint swatches, applied directly onto a photo, were indiscernible from the colour on the photo unless viewed under oblique lighting, which revealed the dead matte finish of the paint.

The idea of using dry transfers as a masking device can be attributed to Art Cullen, who had an article in MR on making your own multi-coloured signs.  I figured that it might work for my locos, too, and while it was much more involved, it's basically the same procedure.  I had to do the paint (all brush work) to get both cream coloured striping and also maroon striping, so these took multiple coats.  (TH&B diesels were officially painted cream and maroon, but while the cream varied in appearance only somewhat, the maroon ran the gamut from boxcar red, to maroon, and even purple, depending on the atmospheric conditions at the time of viewing or photographing).  When I scanned my colour negatives and slides, and used the colour correction feature of the scanner, all photos showed maroon, even though the film saw it, at the time, identical to what my eyes saw.  Any TH&B fan will verify that, too.

Anyway, here's one of the diesels, the "maroon" definitely  more of a boxcar red (and faded at that), matching it's photo perfectly Stick out tongue...

...and the other one...

I used C-D-S dry transfer alphabets for all of the lettering and numbers, but there was nothing available for the cab heralds, so they were done using a brush.

After submitting some photos and a write-up to MR, I took the two models to my LHS at the time, mainly just to show them off a bit.  The owner seemed quite impressed, and asked if I could leave them with him, for display, as he thought other customers might appreciate them, too.  (TH&B fans are fairly fanatical about the road, and they're also, surprisingly, quite widely spread, given that the line wasn't very long, owning track only between Hamilton, Ontario and Buffalo, NY, plus a couple of branchlines.)

Anyway, when I returned in a couple of weeks to get my locomotives, I learned that customer response had been very positive.  As I was packing them back into their boxes, the store's owner reached beneath the counter, and deposited a dozen Blue Boxes on the counter.  "Can you do these?"
Surprised (and somewhat dumbfounded) I agreed.  
When I returned with those, another dozen were proffered, and after perhaps the third lot, I was offered a good price on an airbrush.  (That's a whole different story, but Polly S wasn't very suitable at all for airbrushing, and I switched back to Floquil)

While I didn't detail those diesels to the extent of my own, all required removal of the dynamic brake detail, and for freight units, the steam generator stuff, too, and I didn't very much enjoy doing all the work, so I started to raise my prices, hoping that the article in MR would inspire others to do their own.  After doing about 70 units (including some in N scale and some in brass) I quit, later learning that even at my highest price, I was charging less than 50% of what most commercial painters for that store were receiving. Bang HeadSigh
I did move on to painting brass for the same store, and through that, made some very good friends, for whom now I occasionally paint gratis.

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Posted by ATLANTIC CENTRAL on Tuesday, June 13, 2017 11:16 PM

Here are a few of my ATLANTIC CENTRAL paint schemes, not all the best photos:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by "JaBear" on Wednesday, June 14, 2017 8:57 AM
Some very tasteful schemes so far.
 
From the Lachlan River Railroad.
 
 
Fresh from the workshop.
 
Knowing the management of the Lachlan River RR, any diesel paint scheme will probably be rather austere.

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Posted by GF3897 on Friday, March 16, 2018 12:21 AM

Wayne,

Beautiful work!  Do you paint professionally...would you re-paint an old American Flyer EP-5???

 

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Posted by dieseldoc on Friday, March 16, 2018 11:47 AM

Larry, here is the GP7 in my "Southern Atlantic Seaboard"SASRR GP7 scheme

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Posted by nealknows on Friday, March 16, 2018 12:07 PM

A.P.R.R. GP38-2 #305 & #306

Custom Painted for my private railroad. the A.P.R.R. serves Class 1 railroads, mainly on the eastern seaboard..

Neal

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