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Walthers Mainline Passenger Cars

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Walthers Mainline Passenger Cars
Posted by hbgatsf on Monday, May 15, 2017 4:44 PM

I wanted to be able to run an old style passenger train so I picked up an A-B F3 unit and some cars such as #910-30202.  The talgo trucks and couplers need to go and I was hoping someone who has done this can help me.

I know Walthers has what they call an exterior detail kit that includes a body mount box and drawbars.  Since I won't install the grabs that come with it is there any reason to go this route instead of just using Kadee couplers and boxes?  My minimum curves are 24".

Any recommendations on which Kadees to use?

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Posted by Autonerd on Tuesday, May 16, 2017 2:48 PM
I bought two Mainline coaches and the Walthers kit that includes the couplers and grabs. It's a pretty easy solution as everything just screws in. But... I have had some problems with these cars coming uncoupled. (I run them in a string of old-style Walthers Amfleet cars). They look OK on the height gauge but the problem persists, and I haven't had this issue with a Walthers Proto bag or old-walthers MHCs in the same train. I haven't had much time to troubleshoot or tweak. I'm hoping that a little shim in the coupler box will solve the problem. I tend to prefer the simplest solution, but given the troubles I've had, attaching a Kadee draft gear box might be more expedient! (Though not too much cheaper...Walthers has the kits on sale for $8.)
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Posted by zstripe on Wednesday, May 17, 2017 5:26 AM

Hbgatsf,

Using a Kadee draft gear box will only cause You headaches. The draft gear box that comes with the kit is a swing draft gear box that will swing further than the Kadee box and coupler, which You would also have to get a long shank coupler for, and then it's iffy for 24'' curves. Those are long cars and need the extra swing. Also the couplers that come with it are Proto max couplers just about Kadee's equal.

I have ten of those cars that I put the light kits in and coupler swing pockets with the metal trucks/ wheel sets. I also used 1/4 shank Kadee couplers on them to get the cars closer together....the diaphragms just barely touching....but I have broad curves so don't have to worry about minimun radius.

Inclosed is a pic' of what the swing coupler pocket looks like in the kit.....like I said the whole coupler pocket swings so You can make small radius curves.

Good Luck! Big Smile

Frank

 

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Posted by DARIN UMLAUFT on Wednesday, May 17, 2017 7:26 AM

What I have been doing is using Kadee 118 couplers and removing the the top shelf portion.  The 118's look like the lock-tight couplers used on passenger cars and the lower shelf keeps the cars from uncoupling.  Works really well.

Darin Umlauft

 

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Posted by hbgatsf on Wednesday, May 17, 2017 6:03 PM
Thank you. Seeing the instructions cleared up my question about the Walthers kit. I had asked them where I could view that but they never answered.

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