Trains.com

Subscriber & Member Login

Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, manage your account online and more!

Can you weather a locomotive while its still together?

1999 views
14 replies
1 rating 2 rating 3 rating 4 rating 5 rating
  • Member since
    January 2014
  • From: Moneta, VA USA
  • 1,175 posts
Can you weather a locomotive while its still together?
Posted by gdelmoro on Tuesday, March 21, 2017 6:46 PM

Do you need to remove the shell from the locomotive to weather it?  Will air brush overspray get into the electronics or fowl connections?

Gary

  • Member since
    January 2010
  • From: Chi-Town
  • 7,706 posts
Posted by zstripe on Tuesday, March 21, 2017 6:53 PM

Gary,

Just for giggles! Why not....the Prototypes do it all the time. Bow

Just adjust Your paint flow on Your air brush to barely any paint flow out of the tip.

Take Care! Big Smile

Frank

 

  • Member since
    November 2015
  • 1,340 posts
Posted by ATSFGuy on Tuesday, March 21, 2017 6:57 PM

Are you asking if you can weather the locomotive without disassembling it?

  • Member since
    August 2003
  • From: Collinwood, Ohio, USA
  • 16,246 posts
Posted by gmpullman on Tuesday, March 21, 2017 7:33 PM

I do it all the time.

Use Frank's advice and make your spray pattern very small.

I made a stand using a strip of wood (lath) just as wide the track and long enough to accommodate an engine and tender, with a coupler anchored at one end.  There is a feeder wired to it that plugs into my track bus. I can allow the drivers to turn very slowly so the siderods do not make a "shadow" on the drivers.

The narrow width of the stand also allows me to shoot upwards under the running board and under the cab.

When everything is finished and I can handle the locomotive, I clean the wheel treads with a cotton swab and solvent (I use naptha but other thinners are equally effective).

Have FUN,

Ed

  • Member since
    January 2014
  • From: Moneta, VA USA
  • 1,175 posts
Posted by gdelmoro on Tuesday, March 21, 2017 7:47 PM

Yes

Gary

  • Member since
    January 2017
  • From: Southern Florida Gulf Coast
  • 18,255 posts
Posted by SeeYou190 on Tuesday, March 21, 2017 8:09 PM

Yes you can.

.

I never disassemble for weathering (actually reweathering).

.

I weather very lightly when I first paint a model. As time goes by, if it displeases me I add more weathering, without disassembly.

.

Weathering is very easy to add more of, but difficult to remove.

.

-Kevin

.

Living the dream.

  • Member since
    May 2010
  • From: SE. WI.
  • 8,253 posts
Posted by mbinsewi on Tuesday, March 21, 2017 10:10 PM

I agree, I do it all the time.  Just be carefull around the trucks.  I was a little careless on the bottom of the shell, and trucks, on a Kato, so that meant some unplanned clean up, but, not a problem.

Mike.

  • Member since
    January 2004
  • From: Canada, eh?
  • 13,375 posts
Posted by doctorwayne on Tuesday, March 21, 2017 10:50 PM

gmpullman
...There is a feeder wired to it that plugs into my track bus. I can allow the drivers to turn very slowly so the siderods do not make a "shadow" on the drivers....


When I'm painting locomotives, I brush-paint the frame and all of the wheels, including the drivers, siderods, and valve gear, then airbrush them in the paint booth with the drivers powered and turning.  This evens out the finished appearance.

To accomplish this, I have the bridge from a Bowser turntable set-up in the spray booth, with leads from an old Scintilla powerpack connected to the rails.
When applying weathering, the locomotive is fully assembled except for lenses and glass, and the tender is connected.  Since I prefer fairly light weathering, the majority of it is on the running gear, and for that reason, the locomotive is powered to keep the drivers turning, but loco and tender are also moving (restrained by my free hand) so that lead, trailing, and tender trucks also avoid the shadow effect of weathering appled to static wheels....


I weather freight cars in the same manner, moving them manually on the rails of the turntable....

Wayne

  • Member since
    June 2007
  • 8,867 posts
Posted by riogrande5761 on Wednesday, March 22, 2017 6:19 AM

I would think you would want to mask off windows and headlights, the things that would be washed for visibility.

Rio Grande.  The Action Road  - Focus 1977-1983

  • Member since
    August 2003
  • From: Collinwood, Ohio, USA
  • 16,246 posts
Posted by gmpullman on Wednesday, March 22, 2017 6:34 AM

riogrande5761
I would think you would want to mask off windows and headlights, the things that would be washed for visibility.

I like it when modelers mask the area where the windshield wiper keeps an arc of  the glass clean. A neat little detail.

Good point, though. I have found several sizes of easily removable Avery stickers to be handy for masking some windows. They have them in several sizes down to .31" x .5" and have curved corners that closely match [some] HO diesel and passenger windows. 

Ed

  • Member since
    December 2008
  • From: Heart of Georgia
  • 5,404 posts
Posted by Doughless on Wednesday, March 22, 2017 7:15 AM

riogrande5761

I would think you would want to mask off windows and headlights, the things that would be washed for visibility.

 

If you use water-based paint, a q-tip soaked in alcohol restores the windows very quickly and the bit of residue that remains around the edges looks good.  

- Douglas

  • Member since
    December 2004
  • From: Bedford, MA, USA
  • 21,357 posts
Posted by MisterBeasley on Thursday, March 23, 2017 2:33 PM

I prefer to take the shell off, but I use rattle-cans and weather powders so I don't have the control of an airbrush.  I mask things with blue tape if there's any danger of overspray doing any damag.

It takes an iron man to play with a toy iron horse. 

  • Member since
    January 2014
  • From: Moneta, VA USA
  • 1,175 posts
Posted by gdelmoro on Thursday, March 23, 2017 2:53 PM

Thanks for all the posts.  Do you you pay oil on the moving parts to make sure paint doesn't cause problems?

Guess I'll get an old lifelike DC loco to practice on.  You know one of those that go 100 MPH or 0 Big Smile 

Gary

  • Member since
    January 2004
  • From: Canada, eh?
  • 13,375 posts
Posted by doctorwayne on Thursday, March 23, 2017 11:16 PM

gdelmoro
...Do you you pay oil on the moving parts to make sure paint doesn't cause problems?....

For diesels, there's not much of the mechanical stuff that can get gummed-up during painting.
For steam locomotives, I wash the chassis (motor removed) prior to painting, mostly to remove grease and oil from the running gear.  After the locomotive has been painted and is dry to the touch (usually only a few minutes) but is not yet cured (often several days), I re-install the motor and run the loco either on the layout or up on blocks.  This removes the paint from all areas where moving parts are touching something, usually other moving parts.  The loco is then set aside to allow the paint to fully harden.  Once it has, all of those now-bare areas are lubed - the oil should have no effect on the nearby fully-cured paint.

Wayne

  • Member since
    November 2015
  • 1,340 posts
Posted by ATSFGuy on Friday, March 24, 2017 3:27 PM

Most people just weather the locomotive with the shell on, very few take it off.

Subscriber & Member Login

Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, manage your account online and more!

Search the Community

ADVERTISEMENT
ADVERTISEMENT
ADVERTISEMENT
Model Railroader Newsletter See all
Sign up for our FREE e-newsletter and get model railroad news in your inbox!