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It varies. My Athearn SD9 will creep so slowly that you can count the motor rotations, which my Proto 1k locos can't do - this could just be due to my choice of power pack though. New Athearn locos joining my fleet get an extended running-in on a loop test track and are then oiled/greased - grease in the trucks, oil on the bearings. I've tried the same technique with my Proto 1k locos but they're still not as good as that SD9.
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