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Hello Larry; as you know, I usually agree with you, but, as Yogi Berra once said, "When you come to a fork in the road, take it !" I would generally agree with your statement on minimum size for a nice H0 layout, BUT, the first Gorre & Daphetid was 3'7" by 6'8", and had an over-under grade.This layout was incorporated into John Allen's second[1948-53] and third, final G & D. That little original layout, from 1946-47, was John's 'training module', where he learned a great many of the techniques he perfected later. Someone who wanted to learn hand laying track, scratchbuilding, and other old-time techniques could do well with a very small H0 layout. Best regards for 2003 / Mike
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