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wheel sets
Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, February 27, 2002 12:59 PM
I see discussion about wheet sets,size,ribbed backetc.,but how do you measure the size of existing wheel sets so that the proper size metal sets are purchased?
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, February 28, 2002 4:41 AM
There are some variables to your question.

There's 28", 33", 36" & 38"

The most common being 33" for freight which depends upon the tonnage rating, 70 ton, 100 ton 125 ton.

Passenger cars generally require 36" BUT some of the rivarossi cars take 33".

For 33", generally 40' & 50' box cars, flat cars,
cabooses, 34' & 40" granules hoppers.

For 36", generally 54'ACF center flo's, 50" tank
cars, 100 ton coal hoppers, cylindrual covered hoppers, 2 bay 100 ton capacity hoppers, 2 bay ACF covered hoppers, 40' cement hoppers.

Some of the newer hoppers may use 38" on 125 ton sideframes.

38" on 125 ton trucks on anhydrous ammonia.

Auto rack cars may use 28" for clearence reasons and Beer can cars can vary depending upon the density and weiight of cargo.

Depending upon the time era and the truck manufacturer determines the smooth/rib back.

For instance, the #500 Bettendorf used 33" smooth backs from the 30's to 93, while the #554 Bettendorf T-section used 33" ribbed backs from the 20's thru the 50's.

I can mail you the Kadee sheet that covers these varables.

Your next concern is, what's the best all metal replacement out there?

Generally the proto replacement set seems to be the most popular among modelers, comes 33" & 36" rib or smooth and is not expensive.

Kadee also make a replacement set, BUT the black finish
does transfer on to the track and track does require cleaning once the finish wears off.

The all metal(axle too) is also very popular but expensive.

So you see, there's choices to be made, but your cars will perform better,cleaner and greater free rolling ability.

You need that sheet?
Chuck,
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, February 28, 2002 4:46 AM
ADDENDUM.
The all metal wheel sets(axel too) are by Intermountain. They are slick and Expensive.
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Posted by BR60103 on Thursday, February 28, 2002 1:52 PM
I have a vernier caliper that is marked in inches and centimetres. This is a tool shaped like an F where the crossbar moves up and down and there is a scale on the stem.
Measure the wheel over the tread next to the flange and convert the size to scale inches.
There's a bit of taper in the flange but not enough to throw your measurement off.

David

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Posted by BR60103 on Thursday, February 28, 2002 1:53 PM
I forgot to say: you should be able to find a cheap plastic one in a hardware store.

David

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, February 28, 2002 3:35 PM
There is a writeup in the MR April 2002
L. Strang column, on wheelset changeovers.It was very surprising to me, because it identifies potential problems with the lengths of various wheelsets, and how ones that are 'short', cause cars to tip over at a sideways angle, and I've never had this happen.It may be because I've only used the Kadee 33" freight wheels, not the other makes.I have put them on Athearn, MDC, Con-cor, Model Power,Life-like,Tyco,Mehano and Bachmann plastic/Delrin trucks, and on old metal trucks by Athearn, MDC,Varney,Mantua,Pacific Pike, and Silver Streak.For passenger retrofits, I used Kadee 36" on Athearn cars, and Intermountain 36" on Rivarossi.
Anyway, there is a website referred to in the article for further info and a reference chart [by one of the makers of wheelsets]: www.reboxx.com
regards/Mike R.

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