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Paul: Quick chemical lesson: The Round-Up generally takes a couple days to work unless you get the super-fast acting stuff from Wal-Mart that has Piclotran in it. Round-Up is way to expensive from Wal-Mart or HD or Lowe's though. If you get it at Tractor Supply (not Round-Up brand) but still glyphosate it's a WHOLE lot cheaper. You get a lot higher percentage glyphosate (I'm thinking in the 60% range) in a 2 1/2 gallon jug for about the same price as a 1 gallon (about the 1% range) at the other places. Grazon P+D has a good dose of piclotran (that's where the P comes from) and is mostly 24D (the D) and it kills in a matter of hours, but only gets broadleafs (2-4-D is selective). Round-Up kills it all, but takes a lot longer. If you really wanted to get fancy, get some Prowl (turns your yard pretty yellow) or Surflan (kind of like Pepto-Bismol only orange) pre-emerges from a feed store. That'll keep stuff from coming up if it hasn't yet. Also, there's always Atrazine (a systemic that comes up from the roots instead of through the leaves) that is cheaper than any of these, but it's high solids, so you've got to spray it within a few hours after mixing. If you're using a systemic, it doesn't need any dry time, but everything else needs about 10-20 minutes before rain, so your Round-up should be fine. You also might want to consider some Induce (or similar product) surfactant to start the reaction quicker. You can use dish soap, but it foams up really bad. PC: Corn's a lot cheaper than wood. It has a lot more BTU's per unit, and you can get really good stoves. The really expensive ones that tie into the ductwork instead of being just radiant. Ken: We heated a 40x40 barn last year on 50 gallons of propane. It's got a heavy dose of polyurethane foam in the ceiling, and 3.5 inches of beadboard foam in the walls. Kept it up to 65 or higher all winter. Y'all have fun, I've actually got some school stuff to do in class today, so I'd better get off here. Greg
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