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EMD G12
Posted by Blaine's Trains on Friday, July 15, 2011 5:11 PM

Hi,

I just learned that the old London & Port Stanley Railway had an EMD G12 locomotive, in addition to it's electrified system.

Does anyone know if a G12 was ever produced in HO scale?

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Posted by Pathfinder on Friday, July 15, 2011 8:36 PM

I do not know what scale these are but....

http://www.frateschi.com.br/produtos/g12_eng.php

Apparently about 1:78 scale?

What can be done to it:   http://dieseldetailer.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=gen1&action=print&thread=316

And Black Diamond Models from Down Under show G12's in HO scale: http://www.blackdiamondmodels.com.au/index.html

 

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Posted by Painkiller on Wednesday, September 13, 2017 9:56 AM

There is a model made for the Swedish market with buffers and details of the one sole engine that ran in Sweden. It is now discontuned and the company who produced it was the Norwegian company NMJ (www.nmj.no). It was available with GM.s own demstration livery aswell the livery of the (T42-class) Swedish National Railway. The model is expensive though. The prorotype is preserved today at the National Railway Museum in Sweden. There is a model in the rather odd scale of 1/76 or so scale by Fratesch (www.frateschi.com.br)

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Posted by DSchmitt on Wednesday, September 13, 2017 11:12 AM

OP hasn't posted to Forum in two years.  For anyone who may be interested.

http://www.mrcustom.com.br/Pages/Models/DE%20G12/en.html

 

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Posted by rrinker on Wednesday, September 13, 2017 12:28 PM

 Hmm, wonder what's going on back there around the prime mover that they have to put the dynamic grids in the short hood like that - looks very strange.

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Posted by 7j43k on Wednesday, September 13, 2017 1:32 PM

rrinker

 Hmm, wonder what's going on back there around the prime mover that they have to put the dynamic grids in the short hood like that - looks very strange.

                                    --Randy

 

 

 

There doesn't look like there's room above the engine (see access door height).  I suspect this is a Very Little Guy.  Note what they had to do to the cab.  I'll bet the crew has to keep body parts inside the cab in tunnels.

Also, it's the New Wave to not have the dynamics over the engine.  When's the last new EMD that did that????

 

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Posted by ckape on Wednesday, September 13, 2017 2:53 PM

Yes, the G12 is quite small: http://rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1360421

As far as the original question goes, Hobbytec in Brazil makes resin bodies of the G12 in HO scale: http://www.hobbytec.com.br/paginas/english.php

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Posted by 7j43k on Wednesday, September 13, 2017 3:06 PM

EFVM has a track gage of 3'-3 3/8".

And some very interesting locomotives:

 

 

Note D trucks on what looks to be sort of an SD45

 

And here's something a bit newer:

 

 

No D trucks there--4 B trucks with span bolsters.

 

Incidentally, there's a guy who shows up every year at BAPM with locomotives for this railroad.

 

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Posted by mlehman on Wednesday, September 13, 2017 10:12 PM

7j43k
Note D trucks on what looks to be sort of an SD45

It very well might have been an SD45 in a previous life. The Brazilians imported a lot of used US locos and modded it for narrowgauge. This included such interesting locos as the SD40T2, along with other 40 and 45 kin.

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Posted by 7j43k on Wednesday, September 13, 2017 11:08 PM

mlehman

 

 
7j43k
Note D trucks on what looks to be sort of an SD45

 

It very well might have been an SD45 in a previous life. The Brazilians imported a lot of used US locos and modded it for narrowgauge. This included such interesting locos as the SD40T2, along with other 40 and 45 kin.

 

 

Apparently not.  It looks like EMD built them new:

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EMD_DDM45

 

Narrow gage is shore-enuff interesting, I'll tell ya.

(I get to say that, 'cause I just recently bought my first, and likely last, narrow gage locomotive.)

 

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Posted by "JaBear" on Thursday, September 14, 2017 5:25 AM
The New Zealand Railways had 146 Da Class locomotives which were a 3’6” gauge model of EMD G12.
 
 
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Posted by mlehman on Thursday, September 14, 2017 8:33 AM

Ed,

Yes, the DDM45s were new built. But Brazil's rapid expansion of its rail network in the last couple of decades led to many NG conversions of used locos imported from the US.This pic is of an ex-ATSF -45 converted to NG.

http://www.railpictures.net/photo/461709/

Lots more generally on these conversions in this thread:

http://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,100910,100910#msg-100910

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