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 Frank - I just checked the Walther´s web page for pricing - incredible! Now BRAWA is certainly a premium brand, although their locos are manufactured in China. They do spend a lot on quality control, which makes the product nearly as dear as if it were manufactured in Europe or the states. As for Roco, I never encountered a serious noise issue with their locos - does it come from the gears or the motor? If you are on DCC, maybe you can change the pulse frequency a little to get rid of that "gnarring" sound? In terms of detail, Roco is enjoying a good reputation, but with those sleek modern electrics, don´t look for detail where the prototype has none. If you tell me which one you mean, I can check on that... [:)]TH - don´t let any of the serious Marklinistas know what you think of their precious "toys". I know that there is a type of "religious" war between those 2-rail DC or DCC aficionados and the 3-rail AC or MM gang. But there a number of layouts I know of using Marklin, which are certainly in the ivy league of model railroading - like Miniatur Wunderland!For those, who can read German, the following link may be interesting. It is from a friend of mine in Switzerland, who is currently building a new layout, based on the BLS railroad and some of the typical landmarks of this road, like Blausee-Mitholz Station, both Felsenburg tunnels, the famous Bietschtal viaduct (btw, a Faller product). Just click on "Bauberichte" and enjoy reading them!<a href="http://users.quickline.com/marolf/" target="_blank" mce_href="http://users.quickline.com/marolf/">http://users.quickline.com/marolf/ </a> For those of you who have been bearing with me so far on my little excursion into European style model railroading  - my next layout will be of US outline! As I am "specializing in arctic railroading", it´ll be based on the ARR - I just love Bowser´s F-7A in ARR guise!
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