Life Like to do 2-10-2's, RS-27's and U30B's!!!

[Anonymous]

http://home.t-online.de/home/all-american-trains/ has all the info on these. they havent been wrong yet. just click on the HO menu and click on the proto 2000 link.


i cant wait....C&EI 2-10-2's!!!!!!!! yay!!!!! [:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D]

[orsonroy]

Interesting....neither proto photo shown is of a USRA engine. (neither the C&O, Wabash nor C&EI had USRA 2-10-2s). This is good news for us modelers who actually NEED the USRA 2-10-2; it's still going to be made by someone else! (hopefully BLI, although it's nice to see that Life Like has figured out that sound is a real trend, and is offering it as an option on these engines)

I still need a couple of the USRA versions for C&IM coal drags!

[Anonymous]

It'd be nice to get one of those 2-10-2's and bash it into a Lehigh Valley one.
RS27's? Didn't see that one coming at all!?! Very cool though. Now, how about some more Centuries?
C420, C430, C630's w/hi-ad trucks, & C636's!
How about some E44's and E60's?

[Anonymous]

that is a strange pick for the 2-10-2. i know all of the C&EI units went to the C&O and i think the Wabash units may have come from one of them, or from the same order.

it's great that the Chicago & Eastern Illinois railroad is starting to get some respect! we have the Atlas RS1's and GP7's and the Athearn 2-8-2's, Stewart F3's, BLI E7's and now some 2-10-2's.

[Anonymous]

oh...by the way N scalers, Life Like is going to be doing the GP60's in N scale too!!

[Allen Jenkins]

Thanks Night Crawler, that's the link of the day! I wanna' Tennessee Central RS36's. acj.

[Anonymous]

WHAT?

No road numbers of a CB&Q 2-10-2? Or even Santa Fe?

It was known as the Santa Fe type after all, how come the railroads west of the Mississsippi but east (Talking about Midwest here, not the ATSF now) of the Rockies nver get any good steamers out for them?!

[AggroJones]

This seems out of left field! I've rarely ever seen these locomotives. But there is enough intrest in them to pass over production of a UP 9000 class! Or DM&IR M-4! Don't make no sense to me. [:0]

[orsonroy]

QUOTE: Originally posted by cjm89

WHAT?

No road numbers of a CB&Q 2-10-2? Or even Santa Fe?

It was known as the Santa Fe type after all, how come the railroads west of the Mississsippi but east (Talking about Midwest here, not the ATSF now) of the Rockies nver get any good steamers out for them?!

Chris,

The problem with the USRA 2-10-2 is that it was the best non-Superpower steamer built. This means it wasn't flashy or fast, and was built during the age of drag freights. Superpower was designed partially to fight off competition from other transportation systems, and the best drag freight engine ever couldn't do that. So the 2-10-2s got largely overlooked.

Frankly, I like 'em. Two of my favorite roads, the IC and C&IM, were lousy with these engines, and I plan on modeling at least one from each road. I might build a Rock version too, just for fun. Unfortunately, the Q had a very "distinctive" (goofy?) look to their engine designs, so I'm not too sure you'll be able to pull off one of their engines with this model.

[ClinchValleySD40]

The RS-27 is the really exciting part of this. Finally !!!

[philnrunt]

My my, but that PennCentral RS27 is a good looking little pug nose!

[EL PARRo]

I wish someone would make a UP 2-10-2...

I suppose if this 2-10-2 isn't too diferent from the ones that UP used, I could get an unlettered one and letter it for UP. I'd probably have to get a Vanderbilt tender for it though.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by orsonroy

QUOTE: Originally posted by cjm89

WHAT?

No road numbers of a CB&Q 2-10-2? Or even Santa Fe?

It was known as the Santa Fe type after all, how come the railroads west of the Mississsippi but east (Talking about Midwest here, not the ATSF now) of the Rockies nver get any good steamers out for them?!

Chris,

The problem with the USRA 2-10-2 is that it was the best non-Superpower steamer built. This means it wasn't flashy or fast, and was built during the age of drag freights. Superpower was designed partially to fight off competition from other transportation systems, and the best drag freight engine ever couldn't do that. So the 2-10-2s got largely overlooked.

Frankly, I like 'em. Two of my favorite roads, the IC and C&IM, were lousy with these engines, and I plan on modeling at least one from each road. I might build a Rock version too, just for fun. Unfortunately, the Q had a very "distinctive" (goofy?) look to their engine designs, so I'm not too sure you'll be able to pull off one of their engines with this model.

Yeah, the Q liked to modify the handrails and piping on every USRA engine they bought (a pure aggravation for modeling, especially for really delicate models like Proto 2K).

However, you have to admit the Q's Superpower designs were very good looking.
(not so much on the 2-10-4's as the Northerns and Hudson's)

[nfmisso]

QUOTE: Originally posted by EL PARRo

I wish someone would make a UP 2-10-2...

I suppose if this 2-10-2 isn't too diferent from the ones that UP used, I could get an unlettered one and letter it for UP. I'd probably have to get a Vanderbilt tender for it though.

The BLI announced ATSF is much closer to the UP locomotive than the forth coming P2K model.

[EL PARRo]

QUOTE: Originally posted by nfmisso

QUOTE: Originally posted by EL PARRo

I wish someone would make a UP 2-10-2...

I suppose if this 2-10-2 isn't too diferent from the ones that UP used, I could get an unlettered one and letter it for UP. I'd probably have to get a Vanderbilt tender for it though.

The BLI announced ATSF is much closer to the UP locomotive than the forth coming P2K model.

I'll have to check it out when it's released then, although it probably won't fit into my budget for a while.

[Fergmiester]

CN had 4 2-10-2's and if I'm not mistaken were used on the Danforth in Toronto to haul freight from the Downtown yards to the yard north of the city. Dad talks about them as it was yesterday. You could hear them long before you could see them. Especially on a cold crisp clear day in January.

[AggroJones]

In the MR news letter it said P2K announced a USRA 2-10-2. Who is right?

[MRTerry]

I called Life-Like myself, and they say it's a USRA 2-10-2.
Thanks,
Terry

[orsonroy]

Thanks for the clarification Terry. So they ARE going to do a USRA heavy 2-10-2, and no the engines highlighted by the "German site".

Oh well, at least I'll be able to model the C&IM and IC after all!

[Isambard]

Can anyone comment on similarities or otherwise between the USRA 2-10-2's and the CPR's 5800 series 2-10-2 Santa Fe's, used as pushers in the Rockies?

[Anonymous]

VERY informative!!! I like the RS-27s, but not 'til 2006?!? OUCH!!! Why don't the manufacturers have this info available, though??? Oh well, time to start saving those pennies...[8D]

[orsonroy]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Isambard

Can anyone comment on similarities or otherwise between the USRA 2-10-2's and the CPR's 5800 series 2-10-2 Santa Fe's, used as pushers in the Rockies?

Well, considering no manufacturer supports you Canadian steam freaks (the jerks), the USRA 2-10-2 is about as close as you're going to get. I did a quick search online, and came up with one photo of 5811:
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/cp/cp-s5811ark.jpg

Compare her to a pretty stock USRA heavy 2-10-2:
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/cbq/cs-s909.jpg

Mostly, the valve gear hangers are wrong, as is the cab. Everything else is pretty minor detailing work. I think you could pull off a pretty convincing 5800-series engine with a USRA to start with (but don't tell the purists!)

[AntonioFP45]

At last, someone is producing a GE U-Boat, with sound! Looking forward to it. For those that remember, the prototypes were LOUD! U-Boats at full throttle could be heard several miles away. I hope that QSI accurately captured the sound! Looking forward to it.

[Anonymous]

Looks like a swell engine, but I don't think I'll be very willing to pay the hundreds of dollars it's gonna cost... how big a pricetag do you imagine for these?

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by orsonroy

QUOTE: Originally posted by Isambard

Can anyone comment on similarities or otherwise between the USRA 2-10-2's and the CPR's 5800 series 2-10-2 Santa Fe's, used as pushers in the Rockies?

Well, considering no manufacturer supports you Canadian steam freaks (the jerks), the USRA 2-10-2 is about as close as you're going to get.

You got something against Canadian Steam enthusiasts[:(!][:0]!? (not jerks)

[orsonroy]

NO! The jerks are the manufacturers! I don't model Canadian steam, but I've spent many hundreds of miles riding behind it (mostly 6060), and would love to have a few (inexpensive) models of my favorite Canadian engines.

[the-big-blow]

RS-27's. Why would anyone want that swill in anything but brass is beyond me. Lets see why don't they make a C855, Dh 643 while their at it. Oh wait I own one of them in brass and its very doubtful anything plastic could compare. My message is this with all the interesting models that could be made, why these models. What compelled them to announce an RS-27. Probably somebodys favorite locomotive not to mention the tooling costs to be astronomical. (Or so I've been told) Now I don't hate Alco's (better quality century series would be very welcome). Another classic example of a model that makes very little to no sense. Definately a non buyer even though they'll probably make them in UP.