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Looking for a Patron Saint of Railroads
Posted by IVRW on Sunday, December 6, 2009 12:59 PM
This year in church, I have to pick a patron saint for myself. Naturally, my dedicated presence to the basement dictated what I want my patron saint to be. All I need is the name of the saint. Anybody know if there even is a patron saint of Railroads, or Model Railroading (I think this title goes to John Armstrong, Patron Saint of Model Railroading :) ). TIA

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Posted by selector on Sunday, December 6, 2009 1:04 PM

Saint Barbara comes to mind.  The railways/roads were found via military engineers, and explosives were used in abundance to derive the rights of way.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Barbara

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Posted by tangerine-jack on Sunday, December 6, 2009 1:24 PM

St Judas Thaddeus, the patron saint of lost causes. 

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Posted by Covina Mike on Sunday, December 6, 2009 1:27 PM

It may be a little bit of a stretch, but you might consider St. Philip.  Historically, the Church used to invoke his name in the blessing of all sorts of vehicles, since he was associated with the conversion of a certain Ethiopian eunuch, who gave Philip a ride in the chariot he was driving.  Since standard gauge is associated with the distance between wheels of the Roman chariot (I may be wrong on this) it would seem that there is a least a somewhat loose connection between Philip, chariots, and standard gauge track!  You might just consider him anyway as a terrific example of sharing the faith wherever and with whomever you find yourself.  Good luck and have fun with this!

Blessings....

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Posted by Wdlgln005 on Sunday, December 6, 2009 2:14 PM

You could select Murphy, If your model isn't prototype, blame Murphy.
If you glue your fingers together, blame Murphy
Any time something goes wrong, blame Murphy!

 

 

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Posted by CSX_road_slug on Sunday, December 6, 2009 2:32 PM

 Murphy seems more like a demon than a saint...Smile,Wink, & Grin

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Posted by JWhite on Sunday, December 6, 2009 3:35 PM

selector

Saint Barbara comes to mind.  The railways/roads were found via military engineers, and explosives were used in abundance to derive the rights of way.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Barbara

-Crandell

 

Crandell,

When I was in the Army I was inducted into the Honorable Order of St Barbara by the Field Artillery School, (I was an Infantryman for most of my career) and I never thought of St Barbara being railroad related.  The big framed certificate I have from the Field Artillery School welcomes me into the traditional brotherhood of Stonehurlers, Archers, Catapulters, Rocketeers, and Gunners.  So I associate St Barbara throwing of large projectiles at an enemy.

A google search brought up this site:  

http://www.luckymojo.com/patronsaints.html

and I can find no Patron Saint for Railroaders, however, St Joseph is the patron saint of engineers, the kind that design and build the railroad, not the ones who drive locomotives.  Perhaps St joseph would be a better fit for railroaders?

Jeff

 

 

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Posted by selector on Sunday, December 6, 2009 3:44 PM

Tom, St. Barbara is the patron saint for both branches of the armed forces, and the term "military engineer" means that branch of civil engineering that specializes in applications to the military effort. 

In the case of Maj Rogers, after whom the Rogers Pass is named in the Canadian Rockies on the CPR right of way, he was an American Military Engineer hired to do the locating, so his patron saint would seem to me to be the appropriate one.  I am not familiar with St. Joseph, but it must be the civilian sector that would pertain, and you could make a case for his suitability.

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Posted by grizlump9 on Sunday, December 6, 2009 6:13 PM

 for all the whiners in this hobby it could be St. Francis of a sissy.

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Posted by tatans on Sunday, December 6, 2009 6:16 PM

Saint Caseyjones of Altoona

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Posted by twhite on Sunday, December 6, 2009 9:48 PM

grizlump9

 for all the whiners in this hobby it could be St. Francis of a sissy.

grizlump

Actually, despite your somewhat Paleolithic attempt at humor, that might not be a bad idea.  St. Francis admonished his followers to "Go out into the world"--which meant travel.  Trains travel.   And the Franciscans established the chain of missions on the Pacific coast that became both the El Camino Real and the eventual Coast Route of the Southern Pacific "Daylight" trains.

Nosir, St. Francis isn't a bad idea at all, come to think of it.  As a Franciscan myself, I"m all for it.

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Posted by Allegheny2-6-6-6 on Sunday, December 6, 2009 10:38 PM

 Saint William K Walthers?

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Posted by nbrodar on Sunday, December 6, 2009 10:40 PM

Saint Christopher, the Patron Saint of Travelers and Transport Providers.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, December 6, 2009 11:22 PM

 How about Saint Thomas, Patron Saint of all tank engines Clown

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Posted by Bill H. on Sunday, December 6, 2009 11:26 PM

Very Odd. There is NO listing for any railroad term, except for a few very obscure references.

I would think St. Christopher would be a good choice.

 

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Posted by grizlump9 on Monday, December 7, 2009 1:45 AM

 ok, i know this is not a religious forum but didn't the Vatican hold a fair and impartial investigation back around 1969 and take St Christopher out of service?

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Monday, December 7, 2009 6:36 AM

Saint Arlo of New Orleans.

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Posted by wm3798 on Monday, December 7, 2009 7:48 AM

 Yes, it's true.  Saint Christopher was decommissioned by the Vatican.  Many people still have "Mr. Christopher" on their dashboards, though!

 If you're of the Anglican persuasion, Harriet Tubman is considered a saint...  Of course, she was the conductor of the Underground Railroad, and was a native of my home county.

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Posted by alco_fan on Monday, December 7, 2009 3:31 PM

I would think the church would prefer that you choose a patron saint who has some deeper meaning to you than a connection with toy trains.

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Posted by IVRW on Monday, December 7, 2009 3:47 PM
alco_fan

I would think the church would prefer that you choose a patron saint who has some deeper meaning to you than a connection with toy trains.

That shows why I must pick St. Allen, Patron Saint of Model Railroading, St. Walthers, Patron Saint of Model Railroad Retail, or St. Armstrong, Patron Saint of Track Planning. :)

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Posted by wjstix on Monday, December 7, 2009 4:35 PM

alco_fan

I would think the church would prefer that you choose a patron saint who has some deeper meaning to you than a connection with toy trains.

Actually if finding a patron saint made you feel closer to the church and/or God, I'm sure they're fine with it. That was kinda the point of saints in many cases, easing people into religion thru icons and people they were familiar with. If they came on some pagans who thought wells were sacred, they found a saint who had been martyred by being thrown in a well and make her their patron saint. If they worshipped a god or goddess, they came up with a saint with the same or a similar name, or similar attributes.

p.s. Wrong time of year to bring this up, but St. Nicholas was removed as a saint too. (Well actually, it was discovered he'd never formally been made a Catholic saint, although the Eastern Orthodox church still recognizes him.)

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Posted by leighant on Tuesday, December 8, 2009 2:29 PM

Looking for a name for my model railroad and for the name of the big city I wanted to model.  My favorite prototype is Santa Fe from the time I got my Lionel warbonnet streamliner set in 1950-something.  The Lionel catalog had an artist's painting of the train going through what looked like Monument Valley.  Romanticized Southwest.... hmmm...  Southwest....  A mission station like Albuquerque or San Diego or like SP's in San Antonio.  So many Santa Fe stations and towns had names in Spanish with some kind of a religious connotation.  Santa Fe = holy faith.  San Diego = Saint James.  Santa Cruz = holy cross.  And so on.  I thought of a real Santa Fe town in California-- Victorville in the desert.  And that reminded me of Vacaville, where there was some kind of prison disturbance. 

And in this contemplation, the name Santa Vaca came.  It means Sacred Cow, or Saint Cow, or Holy Cow!

            My railroading got started with a train around the Christmas tree, and after a while, I thought of a way the name Santa Vaca relates to Christmas.  I will tell you in advance it is entirely made up.

             The Legend of Santa Vaca

 

In one of the early Spanish missions established in Texas to convert the Indians, a priest was telling his congregation they should give to the church even though they didn't have much to give.  He said that God can use our gifts more than we know, and he told the story of the cow who gave up her feeding stall to make a place for the Baby Jesus to lay.  He said the cow's gift-- the manger-- became more a part of the Christmas scene than even the expensive gifts of the Wise Men.But the Indians confused the cow in the priest's Christmas story with a buffalo cow who was worshipped in their pre-Christian native religion and they began to bring back the cult of the Holy Cow.  The Church tried to discourage the practice but could not stop it entirely.  The village near the mission took on the name Santa Vaca, and it grew into a major city served by a subsidiary of the Santa Fe Railway.At the cathedral in Santa Vaca near where the mission once stood is a stained glass window with the manger scene featuring the Baby Jesus, the Virgin Mary and the Holy Cow, each with a halo. 

 

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Posted by twhite on Tuesday, December 8, 2009 6:22 PM

Leighhant: 

Now that is FUNNY!!!  Angel

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Posted by nbrodar on Tuesday, December 8, 2009 7:34 PM

 Yes, St. Christopher's feast day was removed from the Catholic calendar, but his cult was never suppressed like some others.   So, St. Christopher is still a recognized saint.   He also still has an Eastern Orthodox feast day.

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Posted by IVRW on Wednesday, December 9, 2009 7:51 AM
Thank you everyone for all your help. I have a Saint Report due in Jan and I will do it on two Saints, St. Christopher, who will be my "official" Saint, and St. Allen, who will be my real Saint. Never let go of a chance to teach others about Model Railroading. Again, thanks.

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Posted by wjstix on Wednesday, December 9, 2009 4:02 PM

IVRW
Thank you everyone for all your help. I have a Saint Report due in Jan and I will do it on two Saints, St. Christopher, who will be my "official" Saint, and St. Allen, who will be my real Saint. Never let go of a chance to teach others about Model Railroading. Again, thanks.

 

When looking at making someone a saint, it's usually required that they not only led an exemplary life, but that they helped others after their death. Essentially a trial is held, with one priest supporting the case for the potential saint and the "Devil's Advocate" arguing against. If it's proven that someone meets all the criteria, then they can become a saint. I suppose it's possible model railroaders in a bind designing a track plan might have prayed to John Allen and gotten an answer from on high.

Course I don't know if he was Catholic...seems to me his family was from Missouri so more likely a Baptist or something....?? 

Stix

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