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The problem with providing a price tag for a "typcial" layout, even a standard 4x8 is that there is no typical layout. 1) There are so many different ways of doing things - do you give the "kit" price - built it all yourself with free lumber, scratch-built everything out of home-cut lumber, or the built-up buildings and ready to run locos and rolling stock? 2) What is the typical layout - running brass, plastic, how many locos? What kind of control. DC with one loco is a lot less costly that DCC with 5 or 6 locos, but both are possible on a 4x8. The best thing about this hobby is you can approach it with whatever means you have, and concentrate on whatever aspect interests you. Quoting a price for a layout does do a disservice to the newbie, because it tell him or her nothing about the assumptions the shop owner (or whoever) is making when giving the quote. CNJ831 - did the people who were suffered sticker shock in that particular shop get a chance to discuss how or why the cost(s) might be so high? Did the owner talk to them about their interests? For myself, I have found that building and weathering structures is the most interesting part (at least right now) with operations way down the list. Consequently, I spend my hobby $$$ on building kits, but not on locos - and I am having a great time. Andrew
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