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[quote] I think that Cliff inadvertently brings up a couple of points that, in fact, reflect on some of the counterpoints that have been posed here.How often, even in this thread, do we hear,"They can't publish stuff that isn't submitted." Then you see that the outsiders who do get published typically wait 4-7 years for their articles to see the light of day (ask our friend Bob B. about that)! Do you honestly think that reflects a lack of outside submissions? At the same time, those authors favored by MR are published on a regular basis about every couple of months. As a former magazine writer myself, I can tell you that either these guys are spending all their time writing, or their submissions are consistantly going to the head of the line. Trackside Photos has become even worse. Whereas this was once the outlet for "every-man" to get his best efforts published, the majority of photos displayed every month currently are coming from the same individual...who happens to be the company's paid photog.Likewise, I'd have to say that Cliff is being more than a bit modest in claiming his layout is not something special and he offers it up as an example that anyone can get published. From what I've seen of it, his current layout is likely in the top 100 layouts across the country and at a level far, far beyond the capabilities 99.9% of the hobbyists on this forum.My overall impressioin is that MR has pretty much backed itself into a corner with its extremely high standards, today largely offering the readership fantasy-layout tours and no longer showcasing the hobby as what it really is, or can ever hope to be, for hobbyists. It would seem that MR can no longer normally accept submissions from outside its circle of elite modelers without feeling it is lowering its standards below the extremes it has set. Perhaps this situation is fine from the viewpoint of the armchair folks but for those who actually struggle to model, I'd say that it's a rather unfortunate state of affairs. Now don't get me wrong, I certainly wouldn't want to see the magazine filled with layouts that look like some kid from the 1950's Lionel pike. But it would be nice to see a much wider diversity that encompasses a broader range of layouts that didn't necessarily take an army of helpers, or $100,000 , to create.CNJ831 [/quote] Well stated and from my experience submitting stuff it appears to be true.  MR has an elite circle of contributors and to get into that circle you will have to get to know someone already in the circle well.  Its just like a club where you can only enter if you have a family or friend that is currently a member of it.
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