Another observance

[Anonymous]

I just went over the "I am this old" post. As with everyone, some of the postings do not interest me and so I don't go into them. This was my opinion of the above thread, until I started thinking about the fact that I found out Dougal is 12 years old and I had responded to him in a couple of my posts on the U.P. trademark issue as if he was an adult. I did this, because I had no idea he was not! That is one of the short comings of this media. I think if you are talking to the person face to face, you are a lot less likely to flame them! I have seen folks on here flame people, for no real good reason. This is likely due to the fact that we don't use our real names and can play with this forum "incognito". Given this information, I want to turn over a new leaf and say I will really attempt to be congenial when dealing with you all.

Dougal, I apologize for my caustic remarks and hope you can understand that I am simply a crotchity old 53 year old!!! I am super impressed with your ability to use this media to get your points across and am very happy you are interested in this hobby, in this day and age where kids seem to only be interested in instant gratification.

Mark DeSchane

[Anonymous]

Mark,
I am convinced there is a learning curve in forum use. It sounds like you just learned that lesson.

[Anonymous]

It's all right. I've posted some things that I'm sure many didn't like myself.

P.S. My name is Mark also!

[Jetrock]

There's a not so old saying--"Arguing on the Internet is like competing in the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you're still a retard."

[AntonioFP45]

[:D][8D]Thanks for all your input Mark (Dougal)! Keep asking questions. Your responses have been great! I thought you were probably a 20 to 30 year old![8)]

Guys like you are this hobby's future.[4:-)][^]

Peace and God Bless, Amigo!

[Anonymous]

Thanks!

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Jetrock

There's a not so old saying--"Arguing on the Internet is like competing in the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you're still a retard."

Jetrock, that was rather insensitive. It would have been better to write..."you're still mentally challenged." We should bare in mind that there may be individuals who suffer from handicaps who still read this forum.[:(]

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Jetrock

There's a not so old saying--"Arguing on the Internet is like competing in the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you're still a retard."

Well this one hit a nerve. First I have a son with a learning disability who has many challenges to over come, one of his greatest hurdles is the insensitivity of his peers as well as supposed adults. Secondly I see those kids with the disabilities and considering the mountains before them any articulated or other engine would pale in comparison as to the strength, resolve and dedication that these children exhibit. My hat is off to them.

Please try to be a bit more understanding as not everyone has an easy go of it.

Remember the hardest mountain to climb is the one we put in front of us.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Jetrock

There's a not so old saying--"Arguing on the Internet is like competing in the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you're still a retard."

Well, first thing i did was cringe at this, and i see i wasn't the onlyone who saw the flaw in it.

Let's get one thing right: retarded means " to slow up especially by preventing or hindering advance or accomplishment" for physically and mentally challenged persons, this statement does not define them unless they are retared by individuals and/or society.

Such a statement you stated is an afront to the Special Olympics and the great pride and acheivements these wonderful children make. I suggest you go out and watch a local Sepcial Olympics before stating such a false statement about them. Better yet, go volunteer, you'll learn some valueable lessons on just how intellenget even the most Mentally challenged person is.

I don't think MRR wants degrgitory posts anymore than the rest of use, so curb that for your own good.

Jay

[Hawks05]

wow. i remember someone saying they were really young. Mark, when i was your age 5 years ago the internet wasn't even on my mind. in school was the only time i used it. i didn't get the net until i was in like 7th grade so 4 years ago, ha. i know 4884BigBoy is only in 7th grade. that is awesome seeing some younger people than me taking an interest in the hobby. granted i'm 17 and "am the future of this hobby" type of person as well. good to know now.

oh yeah instead of calling me Hawks05 or something you can call me Jim or if you feel like typing a lot Ching Chong (its a baseball nickname, my last name is hard to pronounce so some of my teamates just called me ching chong.)

Jim

[Jetrock]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Fergus

QUOTE: Originally posted by Jetrock

There's a not so old saying--"Arguing on the Internet is like competing in the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you're still a retard."

Well this one hit a nerve. First I have a son with a learning disability who has many challenges to over come, one of his greatest hurdles is the insensitivity of his peers as well as supposed adults. Secondly I see those kids with the disabilities and considering the mountains before them any articulated or other engine would pale in comparison as to the strength, resolve and dedication that these children exhibit. My hat is off to them.

Please try to be a bit more understanding as not everyone has an easy go of it.

Remember the hardest mountain to climb is the one we put in front of us.

Sorry if I stepped on anyone's sensibilities. I had an uncle who was born with severe multiple sclerosis, and a cousin born with a congenital developmental disorder--both died far before their time because of these conditions. I also work with the mentally ill. And the person who first told me that joke works with developmentally disabled adults.

But arguing on the Internet is still retarded.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Hawks05

wow. i remember someone saying they were really young. Mark, when i was your age 5 years ago the internet wasn't even on my mind. in school was the only time i used it. i didn't get the net until i was in like 7th grade so 4 years ago, ha. i know 4884BigBoy is only in 7th grade. that is awesome seeing some younger people than me taking an interest in the hobby. granted i'm 17 and "am the future of this hobby" type of person as well. good to know now.

oh yeah instead of calling me Hawks05 or something you can call me Jim or if you feel like typing a lot Ching Chong (its a baseball nickname, my last name is hard to pronounce so some of my teamates just called me ching chong.)

Jim

OK Jim!

[dave9999]

We would probably call a lot of people by their names if they would sign their post. Dave

[Anonymous]

I have to agree with Jetrock's original observation, regardless of its "political correctness". Which I am sure was not intended to offend but rather to illustrate his point, which is well taken. Just recently this forum is overrun with nonsense. Partially, in my view atleast, the result of mixing individuals of vastly different maturities.

I continue to think the younger, less experienced, posters need their own place to interact. If they have their own organization...TAMR... isn't it appropriate they have their own board as well?

Randy

[Anonymous]

If George Bush (the father, not the son) were a model railroader, reading this forum, he might have said: "Let's strive to be a kinder...gentler...forum."

Arguing may indeed be 'retarded'. Being ever watchful of how we express our opinions, however, should always be a priority, IMHO.[:)]

[dave9999]

QUOTE: Originally posted by rda1964

I have to agree with Jetrock's original observation, regardless of its "political correctness". Which I am sure was not intended to offend but rather to illustrate his point, which is well taken. Just recently this forum is overrun with nonsense. Partially, in my view atleast, the result of mixing individuals of vastly different maturities.

I continue to think the younger, less experienced, posters need their own place to interact. If they have their own organization...TAMR... isn't it appropriate they have their own board as well?

Randy

Randy,
By that logic there should also be a forum for the extremly uptight. Dave

[IRONROOSTER]

QUOTE: Originally posted by rda1964

I have to agree with Jetrock's original observation, regardless of its "political correctness". Which I am sure was not intended to offend but rather to illustrate his point, which is well taken. Just recently this forum is overrun with nonsense. Partially, in my view atleast, the result of mixing individuals of vastly different maturities.

I continue to think the younger, less experienced, posters need their own place to interact. If they have their own organization...TAMR... isn't it appropriate they have their own board as well?

Randy

Respectfully, I disagree. I think having all age groups is one of the assets of this forum. While there is some silliness I'm not sure that all the participants are teens. I know I contributed to some and I'm 56. One of the pitfalls of a hobby is taking it too seriously and forgetting to have fun[:o)][:o)][:o)] Beyond that, this forum is a place for the inexperienced of all ages to come and get help. I have been in the hobby for over 30 years and I'm learning things and getting ideas here. Hopefully, I've been of help to others.
Enjoy
Paul

[Jetrock]

Having all age groups is definitely a benefit--while here one runs the risk of not noticing that someone is 12 years old, in real life someone in their fifties (or twenties or thirties) runs the risk of ignoring something pretty smart that a 12 year old might have to say. There are pluses and minuses to the equation. Although in general I find model railroading to be a good hobby for spanning generations.

[dave9999]

QUOTE: Originally posted by dave9999

QUOTE: Originally posted by rda1964

I have to agree with Jetrock's original observation, regardless of its "political correctness". Which I am sure was not intended to offend but rather to illustrate his point, which is well taken. Just recently this forum is overrun with nonsense. Partially, in my view atleast, the result of mixing individuals of vastly different maturities.

I continue to think the younger, less experienced, posters need their own place to interact. If they have their own organization...TAMR... isn't it appropriate they have their own board as well?

Randy

Randy,
By that logic there should also be a forum for the extremly uptight. Dave

Randy,
I just want to add to the above post. Until recently I too got annoyed by the immature nature of some of the topics and post on this forum. When I found this
site, I thought it was a great resource for model railroading information. And I was right. I learn something new every time I log on. But, after awhile I also learned that it can also be fun to joke around a little. In my line of work, I deal with
customers, contractors, IRS, banks, accountants..... Not many smiling faces in that crowed, trust me. So if there can't be a little fun mixed in with the seriousness, there's no point in even logging on. I can read a book and learn as much, if not more than is offered here. But, where's the fun in that ? Dave

[Big_Boy_4005]

Well gang, I have spent part of my day trying to get these youngsters to modify their behavior just a little, when it comes to their signatures. They are bright, fresh, sometimes silly, and seem to enjoy a little mischief[:-,]and this hobby needs them.

As you should all know by now, I have a pretty good sense of humor. Actually I think that most of us do, but sometimes we can lose our patience. A classic example of this recently left us seeing STARS.

They should be welcome here, as long as they behave in a reasonable manor. That means NO FLICKING BOOGERS IN THE PUNCH BOWL.[:D] I have an 11 year old son who would think that was a riot.

I find it quite interesting the difference a few years can make, and am going to soon find out first hand. Jim and Mark have actually taught me a lot today, not about trains, but about life, and growing up. I just hope that I'm up to the challenge ahead.

I'm glad Deschane started this topic, and I just hope everyone reads it.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by rda1964

I have to agree with Jetrock's original observation, regardless of its "political correctness". Which I am sure was not intended to offend but rather to illustrate his point, which is well taken. Just recently this forum is overrun with nonsense. Partially, in my view atleast, the result of mixing individuals of vastly different maturities.

I continue to think the younger, less experienced, posters need their own place to interact. If they have their own organization...TAMR... isn't it appropriate they have their own board as well?

Randy

I don't think we should have our own board, because I would still ike answers from people like dehusman, who can answer almost all of what you ask them.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE:

Randy,
I just want to add to the above post. Until recently I too got annoyed by the immature nature of some of the topics and post on this forum. When I found this
site, I thought it was a great resource for model railroading information. And I was right. I learn something new every time I log on. But, after awhile I also learned that it can also be fun to joke around a little. In my line of work, I deal with
customers, contractors, IRS, banks, accountants..... Not many smiling faces in that crowed, trust me. So if there can't be a little fun mixed in with the seriousness, there's no point in even logging on. I can read a book and learn as much, if not more than is offered here. But, where's the fun in that ? Dave

Thank God for silliness

And yes I believe god probably made man silly so he or she wouldn't go completely postal. Dave has made a very good point. Yes we come here for answers, And yes we we come here for relaxation and a chance to blow off steam. I don't know about the rest of you but I do find taking part in the "silliness" a way to unwind. And considering what some of the nonesense I have to deal with, I think I've earned it.

So please guys lighten up. Some threads are for information and we all know which ones they are and there are others where people are unwinding.

And for lack of more hobby related threads I did notice a lack of good topics as of late So if you want to get the info you want. You have to start asking the right questions.

As for me I've got a new rail cleaner enroute and a replacement motor for my Big Boy on order. And I have some of you to thank.

This is a great forum with plenty of room for everyone!

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by dave9999
....By that logic there should also be a forum for the extremly uptight.... Dave

There IS Dave, .......it's over at Atlas....it's uptight to the degree of being Feudal...there is a ruling class of Nobles....and a great-unwashed-class of Serfs.[:0]
The Nobles get extremely uptight if a Serf is found praising the wrong brand of toys.[xx(]
regards;
Mike

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by robmik

QUOTE: Originally posted by dave9999
....By that logic there should also be a forum for the extremly uptight.... Dave

There IS Dave, .......it's over at Atlas....it's uptight to the degree of being Feudal...there is a ruling class of Nobles....and a great-unwashed-class of Serfs.[:0]
The Nobles get extremely uptight if a Serf is found praising the wrong brand of toys.[xx(]
regards;
Mike

Sounds like some of us should fly over there and do our seagull imitations