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H0 Naval ships?
Posted by Lillen on Sunday, September 9, 2007 2:47 PM

Hi, before you go, they are to big let me say I have a plan. I thought about using a wider then average bench work where these would be. They would be on the opposite side from where I reach. That way they don't take to much valuable real estate. The thing is that I came from modelling warships originally to this hobby and the idea of combining them would be great.

 

It could be anywhere from lets say 1/70 to 1/150 to match the scale. I can always just say that is far away and looks smaller or something. This is for a future project where I want to include ships and a large port. For this scene I can spare around 10 feet. So any suggestions would be great.

 

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Posted by Dave-the-Train on Sunday, September 9, 2007 2:50 PM

Can't recall what they were called but why not use the torpedo boats that Kennedy served on?

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Posted by Lillen on Sunday, September 9, 2007 2:57 PM

I've been thinking about those, Revell makes a 1/72 PT boat but I want a larger warship or a sub.

 

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Posted by jfallon on Sunday, September 9, 2007 3:32 PM

 One of the hobby shops here has a 1/72 scale kit for a Gato class submarine. This was an American fleet submarine in service from 1941 until the 1960's. Many were sold to other nations. They also have a similar sized model of a WWII German U-boat. Unfortunately, I didn't take note of the brand name. Try searching the web for ship modelers and they will probably have more information.

 

    PS - At one time someone had made a few "kits" for a 1/72 scale model of the USS Enterprise, the model was almost 18 feet long (about 6 meters)! 

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Posted by Pathfinder on Sunday, September 9, 2007 3:53 PM

Here are some:

1/125 LTC from Linberg:

 

1/72 Sub from Revell:

 

 

also from Revell, 1/72 PT Boat:

 

From Revell Germany 1/72 British Vosper MTB Boat :

 

 

Not much to choose from, and almost nothing big.  But a fair representation of a navel base could be had with the above.

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Posted by Dave-the-Train on Sunday, September 9, 2007 4:33 PM
 Lillen wrote:

I've been thinking about those, Revell makes a 1/72 PT boat but I want a larger warship or a sub.

Magnus

Obvious solution... a Sub submerged only needs the snorkel(s), periscope and arials modelled...

Whistling [:-^]

OR, if you must have a Carrier...

Just model the bowline rising from a bollard on scene up toward the Carrier off scene.

Maybe put one of the enormous anchors on a multi axle centre depressed car?

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Posted by dti406 on Sunday, September 9, 2007 4:37 PM

Lindberg Models makes a 1/125th model of a Fletcher Class detroyer that is about 3' long.

 

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Posted by reklein on Sunday, September 9, 2007 5:46 PM
Check out some of the ship model sites for plans in 1/96th scale. Hardly anybody will be able to tell if its not 1/87. Practically anything you want is avialable in the 1/96th. Most appropriate would be a Liberty ship or a Victory ship. They are also fairly simple to model.
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Posted by tomikawaTT on Sunday, September 9, 2007 7:04 PM

Don't know what scale(s) they are, but some of our fellow (non-railroad) modelers build models of battleships and cruisers big enough to mount BB-guns, reasonably powerful electric drives and radio control receivers for same.  They are NOT small.  (They also have light balsa sides vulnerable to BB fire, and can actually sink if sufficiently shot up.)

If the rail facilities are going to be in front of the ship, a slightly SMALLER scale model will look realistic - which means those 1/72 models would be fine on an S-scale (1/64) model railroad, but improbable on an HO (1/87) empire.  ("Pardon me.  Why are all your deck hands 2.3 meters tall?")  For HO, I'd suggest using 1/96 scale ships.

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Posted by RedGrey62 on Sunday, September 9, 2007 7:25 PM
 dti406 wrote:

Lindberg Models makes a 1/125th model of a Fletcher Class detroyer that is about 3' long.

 

Rick 

I had either this one or something similar about 30 years ago.  It was motorized and took a long time to build (had to add all the stanchions).

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Posted by UP2CSX on Sunday, September 9, 2007 9:40 PM
Go to http://www.modelwarships.com/index1.html . If you can't find something there, it doesn't exist. Smile [:)]
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Posted by tomikawaTT on Monday, September 10, 2007 12:21 AM

Small addition to my previous post.

Those "fast gun" live-fire warships are built to 1/144 scale.

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Posted by marknewton on Monday, September 10, 2007 12:34 AM
How about a "Flower" class corvette? Big enough to be impressive, not too big to put on a layout.

There is the Revell/Matchbox kit in 1/72nd:

http://www.cbrnp.com/RNP/Flower/MODELS/Revell_Flower_inbox/Revell_Flower_inbox.htm

or Dean's in 1/96th:

http://www.cbrnp.com/RNP/Flower/MODELS/Deans_inbox/Deans_review.htm

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Posted by R. T. POTEET on Monday, September 10, 2007 2:29 AM

Why don't you just leave an empty space at dockside and tell everyone it's the Navy's new Stealth Aircraft Carrier, the USS William Jefferson Clinton!!!!

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Posted by IRONHORSE77 on Monday, September 10, 2007 9:25 AM

HO Scale

USS NIMITZ CARRIER WILL BE 150" LONG AND 34+ WIDE.

VIRGINIA CLASS SUBMARINE 52" LONG AND 4+" WIDE

WWII LIBERTY SHIP 60+" LONG AND 7+" WIDE

USS MISSOURI 122" LONG AND 14+" WIDE

ESSEX CLASS CARRIER 124" LONG AND 27" WIDE

Sounds like it's time to scratch build.

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Posted by Lillen on Monday, September 10, 2007 9:49 AM
 IRONHORSE77 wrote:

HO Scale

USS NIMITZ CARRIER WILL BE 150" LONG AND 34+ WIDE.

VIRGINIA CLASS SUBMARINE 52" LONG AND 4+" WIDE

WWII LIBERTY SHIP 60+" LONG AND 7+" WIDE

USS MISSOURI 122" LONG AND 14+" WIDE

ESSEX CLASS CARRIER 124" LONG AND 27" WIDE

Sounds like it's time to scratch build.

CHUCK

 

I don't feel that the problem is in size. They are quite narrow Dunce [D)]  in comparison to their length. If you put one at the back of the bench work it won't effect the amount of space I can reach over anyways.


Also, this is for my next layout that will happen in anything between 8 months to 5 years now depending on fiscal reasons.(going to expand the house). But where it will be I otherwise need to curve into since the room is irregularly shaped. If I just keep the mainline straight here and let the yard expand 60 cm inward I have an additional 60 cm that is out of reach. Since I don't need to put tracks 60 cm in I can easily expand this to fit a ship up to 9-10 feet and 20-40 inches wide if necessary.

 

i see this as an opportunity to combine several of my interests, naval ship building, naval history and railroading, all in the same space. Now I realize that the biggest battleship possible might not be a good idea. But a WWII submarine or corvette should be very plausible.

 

Thanks for all your help guys.

 

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Posted by PA&ERR on Monday, September 10, 2007 1:00 PM

Cousteau's research vessel "Calypso" was based on a war surplus mine sweeper. I believe there was a plastic kit that was available in 1/125th (Revell?). It might be possible to kitbash it back to it original military configuration - or use it as reference for a scratchbuilt model.

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Posted by Virginian on Monday, September 10, 2007 1:31 PM
I like it.  Of course my father used to have an HO scale sub chaser that looked really cool and he scratch built a PT boat because he drove one home for awhile during the war (long story).  I do not know what happened to them after he died.
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Posted by csmith9474 on Monday, September 10, 2007 2:28 PM

If you really want to go all out, these folks  http://www.maritimereplicas.com/ will custom build you anything you want (maritime related). They will even build you and entire seaport. Don't worry about the cost. They are well worth it.

 

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Posted by reklein on Monday, September 10, 2007 2:51 PM
Lillen, when you build your dock,remember to include a two or three track yard nearby so that empties can be pulled out and full loads moved on to the dock tracks.
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Posted by kursinsky on Monday, September 10, 2007 2:58 PM
Check out The Scale Shipyard, Dean's Marine, BaD Ship Models, and Simar. Between them, they offer a large range of various naval and merchant vessels (Most in 1/96). Some are complete kits, others are just hulls with some fittings.
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Posted by Lillen on Monday, September 10, 2007 3:08 PM

Thanks for the links guys keep them coming. I'm looking into all of them, it's not like I'm in a hurry! Big Smile [:D]

 

There are a lot of interesting possibilities here I must say.

 

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