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[quote user="Safety Valve"][quote user="Pathfinder"][quote user="Leon Silverman"]  ...  Instead, they sit there and meow in order to be let through.  ...[/quote]Sound like the cats are training YOU  [:D] [/quote] One of my cats has mastered the art of the "Door Thump" and at 4 in the morning you believe someone is actually trying to break in. Oh.. it's kitty wanting food. [/quote] Yep, I haven't had a good night sleep in 5 years. I have tried to train, discipline, or even just shout, but he keeps bugging me until I give in and get him some food. At 3 am,  I have found that he can hold out longer than I can.As for the trains, I have learned that if I don't make room for him to lie and watch, he will juat lie on top of something. That is why my layout will include Mt. Kitty, which has a cat sized plateau for him to lie on and observe.
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