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Posted by Ron High on Friday, September 20, 2013 5:45 AM

Try this one it is one I will try for my storage tracks.

http://www.berkshirejunction.com/

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Posted by da_kraut on Thursday, September 19, 2013 7:54 PM

Thank you everyone for your replies.

You have given me the information requested.  The use of infrared light is one great method of track detection.  Also the web site has a lot of great ideas for circuits.  As for the twin T method, it was unknown to me, but also looks very promising.   As for the micro switches with the drinking straws attached, that too sounds like a interesting idea.  To let the trains run in sequence, one would require relays with extra contacts so that they can be latched.

Again, thank you for a ll the help

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Thursday, September 19, 2013 9:46 AM

LION has some that work with some regularity, but they you do not wire your layout like the LION does, so scratch that idea.

LION does have an idea for hidden tracks. LION wants to store three trains on a single lay up track. Him decided to use micro switches with a drinking straw attached. These will be mounted on the roof of the tunnel, and will be activated by the presence of a train pushing the straw up.

The track has two switches, one at the inbound end and one at the outbound end. The three lay up spots are gaped. The switches, with the relays will spot and start the trains depending on which switch is open to the main line. When the track is empty spot 1 is not powered when a train enters the track. When the train stops it will lift the switch which will shut off the power to the number 2 spot. When a train enters the number 2 spot, the power is shut off to the number 3 spot.

When leaving the lay up, only the number 1 spot will be powered. once that switch is cleared the number two spot becomes powered, and when that train clears the number 3 spot will be powered.

Clearly this will need a little more thought since I do not want the second train to move just because the first train cleared the spot. I'll have to devise a protection circuit that will require the turnout to be moved to the main line, and then back to the pocket before the next train can be powered.

Details, Details, Detail is at the other end of de cat.

Other terminals are not so complicated, and only need a tally lamp to show occupancy, again the micro switch with the straw will be my go to detection appliance.

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Posted by Texas Zepher on Wednesday, September 18, 2013 10:28 PM

da_kraut
I am looking for a DC track occupancy circuit.  I have no desire to go DCC ..

Is there a reason you don't want to use the ubiquitous but simple single or twin T?   It has sort of been the standard since the early 1970s.

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Posted by richg1998 on Wednesday, September 18, 2013 8:27 PM

If you can DIY, take a look at the below link. I have used some of his other projects and bought some stuff from him. His projects work and you follow is instructions.

http://home.cogeco.ca/~rpaisley4/CircuitIndex.html#Current

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Posted by rrinker on Wednesday, September 18, 2013 8:03 PM

 Well, there are IR beam-breaker types of detectors, which work regardless, and there is the old reliable Twin-T and its variations which, like DCC detectors, need a lighter car, loco, or resistor wheelsets to detect occupancy. One of the better variations is the Chubb Optimized Detector (not the DCC Optimized Detector - this is a DC varion).

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DC track occupancy
Posted by da_kraut on Wednesday, September 18, 2013 7:58 PM

Hello everybody,

I am looking for a DC track occupancy circuit.  I have no desire to go DCC but would like to have  a set of hidden storage tracks which would require occupancy detection.  Also it would be of an advantage to be able to align the turnouts automatically for the departing and arriving train, again with the help of the track occupancy detectors.

Any thoughts?

Thank you

Frank

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