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How do you enable SoundTraxx automatic brake squeal when stopping an engine?

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Posted by rrinker on Wednesday, July 3, 2013 12:16 PM

 Yes, without a connection you need to pick one of the manufactures on the preferences setting and pic "xxx simulator" as the connection type - there used to be just a Loconet Simulator but they've added others. For the purposes of using JMRI to figure out CV settings, it's not really important - however the other use is to allow you to for example develop a dispatcher panel while away fromt he layout, in which case it's important to use the simulator for the actual system you have rather than just any old one.

Once you get tot he main screen, you pick Service Mode Programming from the middle of the screen. Tehre are no menu options to seelct a decoder, you have to be in programming mode first, then you are presented with an expandable list of decoder manufacturers, as well as other buttons which can be used to identify the decoder automatically if you have the computer connected to the DCC system. Drill down the lis tby clicking to select you decoder and then click on the Open Programmer button at the bottom - for most things having the programmer type set to "Comprehensive" will give you all the optuions you will need.

Pretty sure there are instructions posted somewhere on the JMRI site about using the program in standalone mode - ie, not actuially connected to the DCC system - to make changes to settings via the JMRI screens and then seeing which CVs need to be changed and what values should be plugged in.

 

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Posted by Over50 on Wednesday, July 3, 2013 12:09 PM

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rrinker
 You can pick the decoder from the massive list by hand without bein connected to the DCC system.

Randy, I don't think that is his problem.  He said that he needed to have the connection to determine the command station manufacturer.

So, he needs to run JMRI using one of the command station simulator modes.  Maybe you can give him a quick instruction on how to accomplish this.

Exactly. Understanding this was a first attempt with JMRI the program prompts required inputting certain fields one of which required being connected to the command station so the program could identify the mfr. of it to continue with the setup parameters. Not being connected I couldn't continue putting the required info into the respective fields. I tried just typing in "Digitrax" but the program required being connected. At least that's what I ran into.

And I couldn't find a taskbar menu option - command station simulator mode - (or if it's there I didn't see it) to manually select a specific decoder mfr. from a list to get to the respective CV listing and functions.

I found this with a Google search but I don't see any CV info access in simulator mode. From the wording all this does is simulate Loconet peripherals connected to your system.

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Posted by maxman on Wednesday, July 3, 2013 8:19 AM

rrinker
 You can pick the decoder from the massive list by hand without bein connected to the DCC system.

Randy, I don't think that is his problem.  He said that he needed to have the connection to determine the command station manufacturer.

So, he needs to run JMRI using one of the command station simulator modes.  Maybe you can give him a quick instruction on how to accomplish this.

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Posted by rrinker on Wednesday, July 3, 2013 7:10 AM

 You can pick the decoder from the massive list by hand without bein connected to the DCC system. The only real diference between the Tsunami models for programming purposes is the sound it has,, which you should know.

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Posted by Over50 on Tuesday, July 2, 2013 11:50 PM

Motley

You really need your computer connected to your DCC system, in order to take advantage of JMRI. They use drop down selections, and check boxes for configuring the decoder. It doesn't even show the CV numbers for all the different options.

If you're just trying to reference what CV numbers do what, you'll need to consult the manual.

JMRI make it easy to program, by not having to know which CVs are what programmed to. But this can only by done by a connection from your computer to your system.

As I found out after installing JMRI. I couldn't past the required input info without being connected to determine the mfr command station. If there's a way I sure didn't see it. At my age and late stage in the hobby a CV listing lookup by product mfr. will have to suffice..i.e., it's nice to have but (for me) buying a laptop just for occasional engine programming is not a pressing need. Had JMRI been a CV function and number by mfr. resource offline that would be different. 

 

 

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Posted by Motley on Tuesday, July 2, 2013 9:44 PM

You really need your computer connected to your DCC system, in order to take advantage of JMRI. They use drop down selections, and check boxes for configuring the decoder. It doesn't even show the CV numbers for all the different options.

If you're just trying to reference what CV numbers do what, you'll need to consult the manual.

JMRI make it easy to program, by not having to know which CVs are what programmed to. But this can only by done by a connection from your computer to your system.

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Posted by Over50 on Saturday, June 29, 2013 4:18 PM

rrinker

 No, JMRI does NOT use "javascript". JMRI uses Java. Javascript and Java are two COMPLETELY different things. The bozos who called their scripting language for web sites "javascript" ought to be taken out back and hanged for causing such confusion.

The real complaint I have is that even Oracle has gotten into this annoying game of bundling other garbage software you don;t want or need with their legitimate product - so when downloading and installing Java, pay attention to the checkboxes because unless you uncheck the install options, you will get more installed than just the Java you need.

                      --Randy

OK, understand. Count me among those thinking javascript was inherent to the Java app. I remember M$ used to include "javascript" enabling/disabling options with earlier version of IE (I'm running IE10). 

And I am aware of what I call stealth bundling of crap software a lot of folks don't really don't realize - don't read beyond the bold print - of what is going to happen when they click on the "Download" button. Same for plugins. I've built my last 3 computers and what gets installed is my option.

I found this which provided a clear explanation of the differences of Java programming language and JavaScript. 

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Posted by rrinker on Saturday, June 29, 2013 1:50 PM

 No, JMRI does NOT use "javascript". JMRI uses Java. Javascript and Java are two COMPLETELY different things. The bozos who called their scripting language for web sites "javascript" ought to be taken out back and hanged for causing such confusion.

There is also WAY WAY too much fearmongering in the supposedly technical press. To believe half of what you read, you should just unplug your computer fromt he internet completely and only ever use it to run stuff that gets directly installed - since even most games any more require an internet connection I suppose you could sit around and play solitaire all day. Back in the day they used to call this FUD - Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt. It used to be use to keep people from switching from one vendor's applications to anothers, by scaring the customer about what might happen, raising uncertainty, and causing them to doubt any decision to switch. It was bunk then, it's bunk today.

I have implemented NONE of those changes, I still have Java loaded on all of my computers. I couldn;t do my job without it - most system management consoles use Java, let alone play with trains. I have not disabled Javascript in my browser. I use IE mostly.

 And I have NEVER EVER had a virus on my computer. And nice safe sites like this one are NOT the only places I visit with my personal system.

 The real complaint I have is that even Oracle has gotten into this annoying game of bundling other garbage software you don;t want or need with their legitimate product - so when downloading and installing Java, pay attention to the checkboxes because unless you uncheck the install options, you will get more installed than just the Java you need. This is how you end up with a browser window that is two lines high because it is full of toolbars - just clicking next on otherwise legitimate software installs adds this unwanted junk.

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Posted by Over50 on Saturday, June 29, 2013 12:25 PM

CNR378

They recommend disabling Java _in_your_browser(s)_ so that malicious web pages, should you visit one, can't exploit a hole in the Java _plug in_.

JMRI uses Java on the desktop, not embedded in a web browser.

There was a discussion on the JMRIusers group in January about it.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jmriusers/message/89854

But ultimately it's your choice. Your missing out on a great program.

Peter

Will give it some more thought since, as you noted, you can run the JMRI app (that uses JAVA script) offline to determine respective CV settings. I assume the JMRI app has decoder mfr. selection menu..?

Just mention my desktop computer is no where near my layout to connect to so it would be a reference source only.

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Posted by CNR378 on Friday, June 28, 2013 9:22 PM

They recommend disabling Java _in_your_browser(s)_ so that malicious web pages, should you visit one, can't exploit a hole in the Java _plug in_.

JMRI uses Java on the desktop, not embedded in a web browser.

There was a discussion on the JMRIusers group in January about it.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jmriusers/message/89854

But ultimately it's your choice. Your missing out on a great program.

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Posted by Over50 on Friday, June 28, 2013 8:49 PM

CNR378

If you don't use it already may I suggest you download JMRI. Even if you don't hook it up to a layout you can use it in simulated mode.

In this case I opened a new roster entry using a Tsunami decoder definition, found the Automatic brake squeal check-box. I checked it then went to the CV pane to see which CV changed and to what. In your case CV198=8.

Peter

Thanks Peter...I took a lot at the info page and unfortunately the app requires JAVA which I no longer have installed on my computer. While I didn't get bit with the reported JAVA security problems earlier this year the severity - and still unresolved totally - was enough to follow recommendations to not run it.

yhttp://readwrite.com/2013/06/03/oracle-adds-more-jolt-to-java-security-procedures#awesm=~oa7gffCFekag5k

 

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Posted by CNR378 on Friday, June 28, 2013 8:01 PM

If you don't use it already may I suggest you download JMRI. Even if you don't hook it up to a layout you can use it in simulated mode.

In this case I opened a new roster entry using a Tsunami decoder definition, found the Automatic brake squeal check-box. I checked it then went to the CV pane to see which CV changed and to what. In your case CV198=8.

Peter

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Posted by Over50 on Friday, June 28, 2013 7:47 PM

Peter and Rich...Thank you! Yes  Good to go now..

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Posted by CNR378 on Friday, June 28, 2013 5:05 PM

Set CV198 to 8

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Posted by richg1998 on Friday, June 28, 2013 3:42 PM

One result of a Google search.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDluh6tXQGM

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How do you enable SoundTraxx automatic brake squeal when stopping an engine?
Posted by Over50 on Friday, June 28, 2013 3:29 PM

According to the (manual) description Soundtraxx' CV 196 "Brake Squeal Sensitivity" can be set to enable automatic brake squeal as a function of negative throttle change, with a range of 0 to 255 value, then a statement "CV Value = Speed Steps per Second +10.

I've tried plugging in various values then testing on a running engine by rapidly turning the throttle down but with no brake squeal.

What am I missing here?? 

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