I just received the MTH Daylight. There appears to be missing a switch for DCC/DCS that is clearly shown on their website, located on the bottom middle of tender? I see nothing more than a hollow rectangular hole where the switch should be. Today I e-mailed Trainworld to let them know, along with MTH. Anyone here have this loco and does yours have this switch? For the amount these locos cost, they should be delivered tested, ready to go, with a rose and mint on my pillow as well.
Thanks for any insight on this.
Cheers! Rob
That would be a first, to have a switch for DCS/DCC, since the system in all the MTH HO locos up to now automatically work on DC, DCC, or DCS just by putting them on the track. The only switch I'd expect to see would be one to turn off the smoke unit since powering them while dry is a quick path to burning them out. Other brands have placed the smoke on/off switch in the smokebox.
Bottom line, I really doubt the switch is a DCS/DCC switch. Your loco whould just work on DCC.
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Cederstrand I just received the MTH Daylight. There appears to be missing a switch for DCC/DCS that is clearly shown on their website, located on the bottom middle of tender? I see nothing more than a hollow rectangular hole where the switch should be. Today I e-mailed Trainworld to let them know, along with MTH. Anyone here have this loco and does yours have this switch? For the amount these locos cost, they should be delivered tested, ready to go, with a rose and mint on my pillow as well. Thanks for any insight on this. Cheers! Rob
This is the manual for the HO version:
http://www.mthtrains.com/sites/default/files/download/instruction/80st12252i.pdf
There is a smoke on/off switch (and volume control) under the coal load. Nothing showing or mentioned about a switch on the bottom of the tender. The manual even specifically states that the decoder automatically switches between DC/DCC/DCS
Something MTH is famous for is using photos of the O scale model in the HO catalog - based on the other instruction manual for the O scale version, that's exactly the case ehre, the picture is showing the O scale model, NOT the HO model. there is no switch on any of the MTH HO models.
rrinker This is the manual for the HO version: http://www.mthtrains.com/sites/default/files/download/instruction/80st12252i.pdf There is a smoke on/off switch (and volume control) under the coal load. Nothing showing or mentioned about a switch on the bottom of the tender. The manual even specifically states that the decoder automatically switches between DC/DCC/DCS Something MTH is famous for is using photos of the O scale model in the HO catalog - based on the other instruction manual for the O scale version, that's exactly the case ehre, the picture is showing the O scale model, NOT the HO model. there is no switch on any of the MTH HO models. --Randy
Yes, this link does seem to be the appropriate one. However, the other link did say HO, and that switch was referenced in the instructions as being under the tender for certain versions. So whether or not the picture was of a larger scale engine seems to not be relevant other than a cause of confusion.
Out of curiosity, how did you find the correct link? I found that website to not be very clear, but maybe it was just me.
Hi guys,
Rob, if your engine has a product number ending in "-1", your engine has a Protosound 3 decoder. These engines do not have the DCS/DCC selector switch. They function just as Randy described. Put it in the track and it will automatically recognized of it is running on conventional DC, DCS, or DCC. However, if your engine has a product number ending in "-5" it is a 3-Rail HO engine (ala Marklin) with a Protosound 3E+ decoder. The PS3E+ decoder can run in 5 modes: conventional AC, conventional DC, DCS on DC current, DCS on AC current, and DCC/Motorola. To make the extra modes possible they needed to add the selector switch.
Both versions are covered in the same manual, so you have to watch for the section headers carefully. Page 12 shows right at the top of the page "SET-UP Ps3 E+ Model." The PS3 and PS3E+ HO engines are made using the same tooling, so it's not surprising that the hole on the tender floor is present on both versions. The locomotive shown in the manual is definitely an HO PS3E+ engine and not an O scale model. I am not aware of MTH every using photographs of O scale model in an HO instruction manual. They will frequently use stand-in models in different scale in catalog photos and other advertising prior to production, but I've never seen them do that in any product documentation once the model is made.
Thank you all for the info. Just heard from MTH the deal, as was already pointed out here in the forum. So no missing switch on my particular unit. Whew!
[The product your customer purchased should not and does not come with a DCS/DCC switch. There is a hole for said switch and instructions in the manual because both the tooling and the manual are generic for our regular Protosound 3.0 as well as our Protosound 3E+ models. The PS3E+ models run on AC power & are Marklin stud-rail compatible, so need the DCS/DCC switch. The regular Proto-3 engines can only be run on DC power and automatically receive both DCS & DCC signals, therefore making the DCC/DCS switch unnecessary.]
Thanks again! Rob
I just went to the support section and picked the options from the various fields. Service, Product Files and Documents, typed in HO Daylight in the search box, and that got me the SP PAs and the GS-4.
maxman Out of curiosity, how did you find the correct link? I found that website to not be very clear, but maybe it was just me.